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xaxis 03-17-2018 04:28 PM

Pre-nerf CoS vs GGR
 
So in a random turn of events with incalculable odds, I looted a Goblin Gazhugi Ring (ikr, WUT!?!? Super excited). So my question is, why is pre-nerf CoS so game changing for necros? If its mainly for charming like chanters would a post-nerf CoS and GGR be equally effective?

Nixtar 03-17-2018 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Caiu (Post 2676143)
Other than that it used to be useful clearing agro from mobs that did not see invis. I believe it no longer has that function however.

You mean the stand + click after FD? Does aggro return when invis fade or when standing up is it treated like casting invis on yourself during a fight?

xaxis 03-17-2018 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Caiu (Post 2676143)
Other than that it used to be useful clearing agro from mobs that did not see invis. I believe it no longer has that function however.

Hmm good to know. Thanks.

demonith 03-17-2018 06:59 PM

Its super nice when you are FD'd in a bees nest worth of mobs. let them reset, stand and instant invis before they agro.

commongood 03-18-2018 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by xaxis (Post 2676142)
So in a random turn of events with incalculable odds, I looted a Goblin Gazhugi Ring (ikr, WUT!?!? Super excited). So my question is, why is pre-nerf CoS so game changing for necros? If its mainly for charming like chanters would a post-nerf CoS and GGR be equally effective?

In regards to breaking charm then post nerf CoS seems terrible. Instant cast is what it’s all about when charm soloing. You’re going to lose much efficiency breaking charm too early or too late with a 5 sec cast time.

xaxis 03-18-2018 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by commongood (Post 2676336)
In regards to breaking charm then post nerf CoS seems terrible. Instant cast is what it’s all about when charm soloing. You’re going to lose much efficiency breaking charm too early or too late with a 5 sec cast time.

Yeah, thats what I figured. I probably wouldn't even try it but thought that is where the GGR would come in.

Troxx 03-18-2018 09:58 AM

prenerf CoS is much better than ring. instaclick invis ... not sure how i'd live without it on my necro.

fastboy21 03-18-2018 11:29 AM

for charm killing they are the same.

you don't have to wear the cap. you also don't have to click a target for it. invis is also probably much better as a utlity spell than ivanimals.

Tuurin 03-18-2018 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fastboy21 (Post 2676424)
for charm killing they are the same.

you don't have to wear the cap. you also don't have to click a target for it. invis is also probably much better as a utlity spell than ivanimals.

For charm breaking they are not the same. CoS is better for breaking charm because you don't have to switch target (to yourself) like you do with GGR. Allows you to eliminate a couple of keystrokes from charm break. Doesn't always matter, but there are definitely times when you're pushing charming to the max when a half-second seems really valuable.

fastboy21 03-18-2018 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuurin (Post 2676530)
For charm breaking they are not the same. CoS is better for breaking charm because you don't have to switch target (to yourself) like you do with GGR. Allows you to eliminate a couple of keystrokes from charm break. Doesn't always matter, but there are definitely times when you're pushing charming to the max when a half-second seems really valuable.

did you read my post? or just the first line?


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