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Kelor 06-23-2017 04:41 PM

Masks
 
If i'm on say a gnome / rogue and i use the barbarian mask, will i gain the ability to slam with it?

Doctor Jeff 06-23-2017 05:04 PM

Nope, but if you are a barbarian rogue and use the gnome mask you'll lose the ability to slam.

Borak 06-28-2017 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelor (Post 2545752)
If i'm on say a gnome / rogue and i use the barbarian mask, will i gain the ability to slam with it?

Previous post is misinformed. With barb mask you DO get the ability to slam. Unfortunately, Slam shares a cooldown with Backstab so you can only use one of the two. For rogues that makes it useless - bards that use mask can slam w/ no downsides.

Jimjam 06-28-2017 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelor (Post 2545752)
If i'm on say a gnome / rogue and i use the barbarian mask, will i gain the ability to slam with it?

Illusion to ogre/troll/barbarian: gain slam.

Illusion away from ogre/troll/barbarian: lose slam.

Note unlike slam hide/sneak/forage aren't changed by illusion.

Lhancelot 07-04-2017 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borak (Post 2548172)
Previous post is misinformed. With barb mask you DO get the ability to slam. Unfortunately, Slam shares a cooldown with Backstab so you can only use one of the two. For rogues that makes it useless - bards that use mask can slam w/ no downsides.

I just am curious, how does a mask add an ability to your character that he/she never has? How does the ability "slam" get added to the list of skills I mean?

I would expect the barb mask to work exactly as enchanter illusions work, meaning when you turn into a barb, you simply look like a barb, no added slam skill is granted to the character.

***Slam is not a worn effect, like for instance troll illusion grants a slight regen, that's worn. An actual melee ability which needs clicked is not a worn effect so I just want to know how a barbarian mask grants an actual button you click for slam.

Jmcwrestling 07-04-2017 05:55 PM

Barb illusion does not allow me to slam

Triiz 07-04-2017 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lhancelot (Post 2551075)
I would expect the barb mask to work exactly as enchanter illusions work, meaning when you turn into a barb, you simply look like a barb, no added slam skill is granted to the character.

^This is false.

Just logged on enchanter to test it and make sure it hadn't changed. Illusion barbarian, Illusion Ogre, and Illusion Troll all currently give the ability to slam.

I casted each of the 3 illusions, went to my abilities list and added it, pulled a mob, proceeded to slam it. This worked in Barbarian Illusion, Troll illusion, and Ogre illusion. The hits registered as "You bash a..." I had non-weapons in both hands as well.

I don't have a Barbarian mask, but I would imagine it works the same.


[Tue Jul 04 18:43:34 2017] You begin casting Illusion: Barbarian.
[Tue Jul 04 18:43:36 2017] Aqua goblin tidal lord tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Tue Jul 04 18:43:37 2017] You feel different.
[Tue Jul 04 18:43:38 2017] Aqua goblin tidal lord tries to bash YOU, but misses!
[Tue Jul 04 18:43:38 2017] Aqua goblin tidal lord tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Tue Jul 04 18:43:39 2017] Aqua goblin tidal lord tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Tue Jul 04 18:43:39 2017] You bash aqua goblin tidal lord for 1 point of damage.

and Troll...

[Tue Jul 04 18:45:16 2017] You begin casting Illusion: Troll.
[Tue Jul 04 18:45:19 2017] You feel different.
[Tue Jul 04 18:45:20 2017] Aqua goblin tidal lord tries to kick YOU, but misses!
[Tue Jul 04 18:45:20 2017] Aqua goblin tidal lord tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Tue Jul 04 18:45:21 2017] You try to bash aqua goblin tidal lord, but miss!

The ogre log is to lenghty to post cuz I was rebuffing some other spells in between, but point should be made.

Lhancelot 07-04-2017 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmcwrestling (Post 2551119)
Barb illusion does not allow me to slam

Finally someone that has one and speaks from experience. Ending my month long debate with someone over this.

I just want to know how people think a mask grants an actual melee ability though, please explain that. :D

Jmcwrestling 07-04-2017 06:54 PM

I don't spend much time illusion ed as a large race , and I was fairly certain but hey I'm willing to admit I'm wrong , he does have logs after all

Triiz 07-04-2017 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lhancelot (Post 2551136)
Finally someone that has one and speaks from experience. Ending my month long debate with someone over this.

I just want to know how people think a mask grants an actual melee ability though, please explain that. :D

It adds it to your abilities list, the same as a legit troll/ogre/barbarian. As soon as you click off the illusion, you no longer have the option on the list although the hotkey will remain.

Again, this is from an Enchanter's perspective. I really, really doubt the mask is different though since it is the exact same spell Illusion: Barbarian


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