EQ Fashion Experts: Teach Me How Fashion Works
 

TLDR; I'm looking for a breakdown of how to differentiate/group wearable items by their appearance.

Awhile back people requested a fashion site, so I started working on a crawler that could find the fashion data for P99 items. At first I thought it was simple: every item just has an appearance type (eg. "Kunark Chain" for fungi tunic). But then I looked at Allakhazam/Lucy's data, and there it seems every item has three things that could affect its appearance ...

• Appearance Type (eg. Chain)
• Era (eg. Kunark)
• Tint (eg. black, except in RGB form)

So, for instance, an Advisor Robe (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=2087) would have an appearance type of "Crimson Robe of Alendine", an era of "Original", and a tint of "#610d02".

However, I'm not sure if the era is even relevant or not. Some items (eg. fungi tunic) have an appearance type "Kunark Chain", while others just have "Chain". But there are a LOT of "Chain" items, and I don't think they all look the same, which is why I thought the era might matter. I'm also not sure if "Chain (from Kunark era)" is even different from "Kunark Chain", or whether that's just poorly-entered data.

If I was more familiar with items and their appearances I could probably draw some conclusions, but since I've never been big on fashion I can't. So, can any fashion experts explain how many different "axis" of fashion differentiation there are for a given item, and what they are (type/era/tint or type/tint or ?) Also, does anyone have an opinion on the quality of Allakhazam/Lucy's fashion data, or have a suggestion for a better source?

semi-related nerd shit

bring up the raw on lucy and find the material, it'll be a number. take that number and go to http://items.sodeq.org/advsearch.php as shown below

http://i.imgur.com/qaqi8be.png

blammo! you get a list of all items of that material

not quite what you asked for but u ain't Roglio

also the only good fashionquest is gown of the chamberlaine fight me

here i am

http://i.imgur.com/xIsKnIC.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/eGFPZsb.png

as you can see everyone thinks i am very fashionable

That is very helpful, thanks Poke! Interestingly "material" and "appearance type" seem to correlate highly: for instance all items with material 10 seem to have an appearance type of "Crimson Robe of Alendine".

But that begs the question: are the two the same (ie. one's just the numeric version of the other), or are they somehow different? And if they are different, which should I use? I will definitely need to do some more research into "material".

Oh yes, clearly.

that's new info to me, cool! i've only used it for velious stuff, tint and material seemed all that mattered. i will say this method breaks down for post-velious stuff(monk cloth dropping in shadeweaver's thicket LIES)

kunark chain - ask daldaen or cecily. if anyone knows, it would be them.

pras

reroll iksar report back here when that's accomplished

On EQEmu, the database takes a numerical value indicating which graphic to display. As expansions were added, the later materials have a higher number because they're appended to the end of the list.

Classic:

0 - cloth
1 - leather
2 - chain
3 - plate
4 - monk leather (yes, monks get their own special graphic)
5 - ?
6 - ?
7 - ? (kunark)
8 - ?
9 - ?
10 to 16 - robe graphics (each robe style has a different number)

Velious:

17 to 23(?) - Velious armor

One more factor in appearance is race, of course.

Iksar had a few special materials (their cultural comes to mind) so that may be a few of them. I'd have to poke around on a test server to find out what each of the numbers belongs to, though. Some seem to be empty.

Regarding chain, you'll have old world chain and 2 types of Velious chain. Kunark didn't have any special armor graphics. They just gave everyone plate armor because.. cocaine.

Here is my elf:
http://i.imgur.com/2i5hxWd.png