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Hamedore 08-29-2016 06:24 AM

NToV harder than VP ?
 
Never raided any of the zones.
Are mobs in NToV harder than VP ? (higher MR...) or is it the same difficulty ?

lurk 08-29-2016 07:20 AM

VP dragons only have 32k hp and you cant hide from AEs. You gotta put them down fast. Hoshkar is still pretty beastly.

A lot of ntov dragons are slowable and you can hide from AEs. They have a lot more hp but are mostly pretty easy with a good ch chain as long as your dps is dodging AEs. Vyemm is considered the hardest dragon in tov since he hits for like 1100 unslowable with an annoying knockback ae, i dont know if its in the timeline but he eventually gets permarooted which adds considerably to the difficulty

Ntov is harder just because it takes more coordination

Erati 08-29-2016 10:06 AM

the mobs are much more difficult but the tactics are much easier due to walls / slows

maybe Hoshkar could give some NTOV dragons a run for their money but VP dragons die within 30 sec of engaging them while some ToV encounters take 3-4 min

Cecily 08-29-2016 10:30 AM

Make NToV an outdoor zone imo.

Daldaen 08-29-2016 10:39 AM

Fix resist code IMO

Cecily 08-29-2016 10:48 AM

Don't need to make this game any easier. NToV is a joke. Low number VP is probably the most fun raid encounters ATM.

Daldaen 08-29-2016 11:07 AM

And it would be way more fun if Hoshkar could be pulled off by 10-12 people, given his AE was actually resistable with proper resists.

As it stands, the Hoshkar/Zlexak, and Nexona AEs are damn near unresistable even with 255 resists. Which is wrong.

All-or-nothing AEs should resist at a higher rate than those which have a potential for partial resists. Furthermore these AEs very likely have non-classic resist modifiers (or lure checks) which they did not have until after the resist revamp in Luclin, which allowed you to buff up to 500 resists.

Man0warr 08-29-2016 04:13 PM

Hosh/Zlexak AE still really hard to resist on Phinny. It's got a -150 resist adjust after all.

Daldaen 08-29-2016 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Man0warr (Post 2348717)
Hosh/Zlexak AE still really hard to resist on Phinny. It's got a -150 resist adjust after all.

Try again when you're rolling in Vex Thal gear. The resists on that stuff surpasses even PoTime.

With decent resists and a bard you should resist most all of those AEs at cap on Phinigel. Druushk is actually the most difficult fight due to the AE being allowed to partial hit.

Raev 08-29-2016 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cecily (Post 2348568)
Don't need to make this game any easier. NToV is a joke. Low number VP is probably the most fun raid encounters ATM.

The big problem is variance and racing, which makes everyone zerg because they don't want to ever wipe. The small problem is not fixing tl box/coh pulling. Brad McQuaid would have a heart attack if he saw how we do the content now.


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