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Hum/Bar should start with candles

I did a few searches but found nothing on this one in bug reports.

All humans and barbarians should start with A Worn Candle (changed to Gloomingdeep Lantern in 2005 on live - it's the same item ID). I don't know for sure but Erudites probably get a candle too.

Most of the proof I can find is from 2004.

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http://everquest.allakhazam.com/foru...56968813163915

March 2004-

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I'm playing a lvl 8 BL Barbarian, who started with a 'worn candle' which allowed me to see around the tunnels into the Black Burrow.

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http://lucy.allakhazam.com/itemhisto...79&setcookie=1
(the light strength was also upgraded in 2003 from 'candle' to 'light globe')

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Live 2005-09-07 12:23 Changed name from 'A Worn Candle' to 'A Gloomingdeep Lantern'
Live 2005-09-07 12:23 Changed loreinfo from '*A Worn Candle' to '*A Gloomingdeep Lantern'

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http://reichan.cocolog-nifty.com/eve.../inventory.txt
(page info indicates this was updated May 2004)

Inventory of a starting warrior (on test server - issued field packs and any gear are test server only)

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General5-Slot1 A Worn Candle 9979 1 1

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http://game7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/mmoqa/1095334890/

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名も無き求道者：04/09/22 18:27:18 ID:G4/Ah+vE
BARのWARで始めました。最初に持っていたA Worn Candleをすてて、
Large Lanternを買ったのですが、最初のキャンドルと違って持ち物欄に
入れておくだけでは明るくなりませんでした。Wax Candleを
買いなおしたのですがやっぱり左手に装備しないと明るくなりません。
何とかする方法は無いものでしょうか？

^ posted on 09/22/2004, person is a Barbarian warrior stating that they started out with A Worn Candle, bought a lantern (which didn't work), and then purchased a Wax Candle, which didn't work unless equipped in off-hand.

To the top for Green and night blindness

Second that. Blindness should be a thing on Green and Blue for that matter.

If it's a limitation of the Titanium client, Secrets (or Haynar?) can probably hack it in no time.

Looking for better sources for this.

Earliest source I've found so far is January 2001. I can't say yet that they were in at launch.

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posted 01-18-2001

Do you guys remember the starting equipment you got when your character was new? The guild tunic, perhaps a candle, and a goatskin filled with milk?

http://web.archive.org/web/200101282.../048977-3.html

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Submited by: caltor the crusher On: 10/23/2001 7:58:46 AM

I was but a lev 11 when i explored the under ground of fp. i fell in the well and didnt see the 4 or 5 D.C. thay chaced me up on dry land and killed me in some fetureless cave. all most couldnt get my courps back had to use my newbe candle just to see. then i had to whander the underground untill i found the sk-rouge guild thank the gods for nutral faction or the evil class npcs would have killed me.

http://web.archive.org/web/200205090...&pg=1&sortby=2

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1/24/2002

You should, depending on your race also have a torch or candle, and everyone will start with 5 flasks of water and 5 muffins.

(must turn off javascript to see this, there is a redirect that will block you)

http://web.archive.org/web/200501241....asp?ID=549907

Found a better one (it's listed on Everlore as Worn Candle):

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10/27/2000 9:32:00 PM
heh its a light item that newbies start with no effects or anything just light

http://web.archive.org/web/200203191...&pg=1&sortby=3

Still looking for older stuff.

Bingo.

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Druid Guide
4/8/1999 5:01:59 PM

Levels 1-3
Before you head out, be sure to scribe and memorize your spells. Cast them a couple times to get the feel for how they work. You begin your hunt (if you're starting from Surefall Glade) in Qeynos Hills--which is located thru the very long, very dark tunnel. Human players should be sure to equip their candles for that first trip--and once out in the Hills, ask if someone will get you a Fire Beetle eye which is a far superior light source (and a neccesary component for the Flame Lick spell).

https://web.archive.org/web/20001120...es.asp?ID=1077

The light source value should be quite weak, less than a fire beetle eye.

This isn't launch but it's very close.

I believe Erudites should start with these candles too (I saw a few posts about Erudites using them).

That's some really good research. Like many other folks I could plainly remember the candles, but couldn't remember if they were in place from the start. You may have uncovered another issue as well: Does anyone actually start in Surefall on P99? I want to say the wife's (human) Druid started in Qeynos here on P99.

Danth

There is still enough doubt around this that I don't feel comfortable saying they were in at launch. Would appreciate first hand accounts of candles nearer release day.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...2&postcount=23

I found this newsgroup post from May 31st, 1999 stating that new players got candles:

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Depends on what class you chose. Many classes get a candle. Try
turning out the lights in the room you are in, or turn up the gamma
correction.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....Q/Gvadp7WKLDQJ

So we are now at May 1999.

Another one:

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I always got a candle to start with, actually. And I quickly learned that
new light sources are free; the Fire Beetles have them. Unfortunately that
last part doesn't apply to you 'coz there don't seem to be any Fire Beetles in
Faydark.

In any case, I also adjusted my system gamma and monitor brightness to
take the edge off the darkness.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....Q/PoT7cSX7YOEJ

I feel like this is now getting very close to launch.