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 Dain still spawning on Ring War fail Not classic - should only be spawnable by the later Shawl quests. | 
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 It doesn't make sense for him to spawn on a failure - otherwise people would have been failing them on purpose just for Dains. Which is an easy way to grief Thurgadin bankers/quest givers/merchants/etc and you lose nothing by failing. | 
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 This isn't an easy fix due to the systems in place to completely depop/repop thurgadin.   We're working on a solution. | 
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 Sentry should be a 3-day respawn, so its not farm, you're getting double the dain pops, not that incredible. I'll get on live now and kill Dain if he is up, if not I will spawn war and see if he respawns on death. | 
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 Since this is just a 'My thoughts' thread.  I don't mind giving mine. Dain's repop is classic. Where's the proof that it's not. NOW, if staff wants to change that, then OK. | 
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 So I went and killed Dain on live (he didn't drop any spells which I found odd), and then I went outside to fail a ring war... Sentry Baddain wasn't up. I'll check again tonight and see what the deal is with failing a ring war. | 
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 However...I do not recall whether Dain respawned or not. | 
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 I didn't assess anything yet?  Or do you mean to suggest Live isn't useful for determining any mechanics? | 
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