Munchkin trying to steal EE camp
 

Let me tell you a little story. It begins in guk where I'm camping the frenzy for a solid 3+ hours and getting pretty damn tired of PHs and rings. So, I do a camp check and notice no one is at EE, and no one has been there for over an hour. That simply never happens so I head on over, notice the shaman is up and kill him real quick. I'm sitting there about 20 minutes and decide to run back to frenzy just to see what has spawned. I'm curious. So I run there, notice 3 BTs up, and I run back to EE only to find Munchkin sitting there.

Shaman PH spawns 1 minute later as I'm /telling him, very respectfully, that I had just begun camping EE one spawn prior, and that I only intended to stay for 1 hour so he was welcome to have it after. Well he had none of that, saying I wasn't there when he got there so the camp was his, and he threatened to KS me. "You can try to get the kill, but you will fail," he says.

Now, Munchkin inevitably failed, once to me unfortunately sending my pet on a mino I had targeted previously instead of the evil eye when it spawned (sorry, well sorta), and then once to a roamer that nearly killed me as well as I was looting my corpse (yea I died to my "train" also). He then, after failing to steal my camp twice, accused me of training him repeatedly on purpose.

I have no point to this story, it's just funny. I don't believe in karma...but sometimes you wonder.

Munchkin, maybe you should go level instead of stealing people's camps. If you ask nicely, you can get in line like the rest of civilization. Or, you can continue to die to single urd shamans. Level 30 mobs are tough man.

If you aren't present at a camp, then you can't claim it. Camp is a funny word in EQ history as there was never officially camps, yet we are all very aware of what they are. If you want to camp something and have people respect your rights to that camp, you better stay put. If you were to put in a petition and tell me exactly what you said here, then you are in the wrong. You left the camp unattended therefore giving up your rights to claim it.

In classic you also had to share orc1 if a second group wanted to fight there as well. That doesn't mean any player who did that wasn't a jackass. Gimme a break citing official server rules about "there are no camps" and all that shit. There are. Just because they aren't official doesn't mean they don't exist. It's sorta like, it's not a rule for me to not call my coworker a dumbass because she's slow as shit at everything she does, but I'm not gonna say that to her, and if I did, I'd be a jackass.

There are server rules, and there are also not-being-a-jackass courtesies that every normal person abides by. Not demanding to share orc1 is one of these don't-be-a-jackass courtesies. As is not trying to perch at a clear camp trying to cite proximity as a claim on a mob that has already been killed.

Our server rules require players to respect camps. As soon as you decided it was more important for you to check frenzy than stay at EE you decided to forfeit any right you had to the camp. Same goes for druids/wizzies who port out between spawns to do other things, you can't claim a spawn in a zone you are vacant from for 20 mins.

You are comparing apples to oranges. Camping a PH/named mob isn't quite the same as camping an XP camp. Either way, it all boils down to you left your camp. That's why it's called a camp in the first place. You don't leave your camp with the fire burning... you'd be starting forest fires!! :P

Maybe it was different on your original Live server, but on the two I played on... if you aren't at your camp, it's not your camp.

What's to say Munchkin wasn't camping EE for 5 hours before you showed up but went LD? Now you took it and tell him you want it for the next hour. He was there first but wasn't there when you were there. What do you say now? Is it your camp or his camp????

In this scenario, by the rules it would be my camp. However, by courtesy and playing nice, it would be his camp. No one's arguing rules here. Just because you're following the rules doesn't mean you're not being a jackass. There's a system of etiquette you follow in a community game like EQ. Without fail, those who follow that etiquette are always the ones who know how to get along well with others. Those who ignore it and fall back on technicalities are those inevitably without friends and who don't really grasp the nature of EQ.

Anyway, just stirring the pot as rants & flames has been noticeably empty. He died once to my mistargeted pet train and once to some random act of fail on his part and left the zone, so no harm was done in the end to those on the side of not being a jackass. And it's bed time now so lets get this up to 5+ pages before I wake up shall we?

You left the camp. That opens it up. No way you should be able to bounce around named camps and claim them all. Sorry bud. Good luck in the future!

I would say if the camp is empty when you get there it's your camp.
Pretty cut and dry.

When you leave a camp the camp becomes up for grabs, also cut and dry.

This is my new favorite thread.

<3 wenai !

example of what i've seen : , I've seen people gate to go bank and reclaim hot camps". I've exp'd in ishva room , with people coming in 10min before spawns and telling me he's camped! by them cause they know the timing. Even though me and wifes alt been exping there for 4 hours. This has happened 3 times there. Than they all tell me different rules on camps and ischva is different .

This thread lets me know what i thought i did know was right : ) thanks.

You lost right to your camp when you checked on the frenzy spawn, Sorry Dabamf.

I also want to point out -- there's no list in everquest. If you want to claim a camp you better be ready to wait until that first guy camping it is done. Which means you sit your ass somewhere close and twiddles your thumb until that guy leaves. If that guy says theres someone on the list, well - tough luck - they had to sit there to get it.

Although, you can keep a list and be nice about it all as well, but if someones come and sit there and wait -- Well your list doesnt do much anymore!