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Tankdan 09-03-2014 07:32 PM

does NFL betting with friends/guildies count as Casinos?
 
Wondering if this extends to guild forums where we might bet on NFL games each week for small amounts of plat?

Say I want 49ers to win by 5 or more points, and guildy wants Cowboys to win or lose by less than 5. But this is all done on guild forums, and winner wins like 5k. Is this an issue?

Edit: Not allowed.

JayN 09-03-2014 07:51 PM

dont do it they are watching you!

Glenzig 09-03-2014 07:56 PM

Don't be a weakling and bet on point spreads first off. Pick winner/loser, points don't matter. Secondly, good question. I'm sure this is more common than most people assume.

loramin 09-03-2014 07:57 PM

I'm no GM, but as I understand it the devs aren't against casinos because they hate gambling, they're against them because the casinos create real customer service headaches for them. Since the GMS have no way of even knowing about your NFL betting, let alone having it cause problems for them, I'd be really surprised if it was banned.

iruinedyourday 09-03-2014 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loramin (Post 1603388)
I'm no GM, but as I understand it the devs aren't against casinos because they hate gambling, they're against them because the casinos create real customer service headaches for them. Since the GMS have no way of even knowing about your NFL betting, let alone having it cause problems for them, I'd be really surprised if it was banned.

Also if you faked a bet on these forums for 100k and really just payed someone 50$ for 100k.... as in RMT

I'm gonna guess they will not support it.

...or at the very least not allow people aid when they don't get their winnings until they realize it is all one big RMT scam and then ban it.

loramin 09-03-2014 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday (Post 1603402)
Also if you faked a bet on these forums for 100k and really just payed someone 50$ for 100k.... as in RMT

Right, but people can do that already. I can go in to some forum the GMs can't see and offer to give someone a backrub for $100 ... and then completely un-relatedly they could just happen to give me a Fungi. And then I could forget to give them the backrub.

The point is, RMTers can come up with any number of excuses, but when the GMs see them giving their 4th fungi away and not getting any plat back someone's getting a ban, no matter what creative excuse they give.

But none of that is any reason to start banning people who make completely private bets that don't impact the server staff at all.

iruinedyourday 09-03-2014 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loramin (Post 1603413)
Right, but people can do that already. I can go in to some forum the GMs can't see and offer to give someone a backrub for $100 ... and then completely un-relatedly they could just happen to give me a Fungi. And then I could forget to give them the backrub.

The point is, RMTers can come up with any number of excuses, but when the GMs see them giving their 4th fungi away and not getting any plat back someone's getting a ban, no matter what creative excuse they give.

But none of that is any reason to start banning people who make completely private bets that don't impact the server staff at all.

well idk what you argue with me about it, I'm not the one making the rules.

Pep 09-03-2014 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derubael (Post 1583263)
Due to numerous issues resulting from player run casinos and to reflect similar policies enacted on Live during classic, as well as other MMORPG's, we have decided to prohibit the operation, advertisement, or use of "casinos", including, but not limited to, dice rolls, card games, "guessing" games, and any other form of gambling. Please use your best discretion when determining what constitutes "gambling".

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=162263

I would imagine it's ok :rolleyes:

Swish 09-03-2014 09:16 PM

"not limited to"

Tankdan 09-03-2014 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pep (Post 1603441)

Sports betting is absolutely gambling. But the issue here is that its not mass advertised, not done in game, it's not with strangers, and it's not for fungis. Just guildies betting plat on NFL games for fun.


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