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Tacitus 07-14-2014 05:25 PM

Velious Enchanters
 
Are Enchanters less usefull in Velious? Starting thinking about making one and leveling him insanely to play during velious but heard they are not effective...anyone have more info on this?

phacemeltar 07-14-2014 05:26 PM

iirc theres 2 reasons:
1. mobs MR goes up, making mez harder
2. items come with clarity preinstalled, making casted clarity less needed

Thulack 07-14-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by phacemeltar (Post 1534313)
iirc theres 2 reasons:
1. mobs MR goes up, making mez harder
2. items come with clarity preinstalled, making casted clarity less needed

#2 really has no effect on enchanters. the mana regen is +3 at most,wont be super common for awhile and stacks with clarity so people will always want it. Mobs having higher MR might cause a issue but in end all classes will find their niche and are useful in circumstances.

Gimp 07-14-2014 05:39 PM

Less OP, still very viable.

iruinedyourday 07-14-2014 05:42 PM

Shaman party in WW...

But really IDK, Tecmos did some testing - He promised us a live stream of some of it but now he is leveling a Necro. Which... might be an indicator on how well his testing went :P

Tecmos Deception 07-14-2014 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by phacemeltar (Post 1534313)
iirc theres 2 reasons:
1. mobs MR goes up, making mez harder
2. items come with clarity preinstalled, making casted clarity less needed

Yeah #2 is wrong. No one turns down regrowth just because they are already wearing an iksar bp. Why the hell would people think c2 is less needed just because they've got FT2 or something? Lol. If anything, mobs hitting harder and having more HP make c2 even more important in Velious than in Kunark, even with FT items helping to boost mana regen.

#1 is kinda true, but not really imo. I think it's a level issue. Level 55-60s grinding xp or farming drops aren't going to be fighting level 50-53 nameds like they often are in Kunark. They're going to be fighting level 55-60 nameds. The higher levels mean more resists, though in most cases I don't think MR is specifically boosted, stuff is just more resistant because stuff is higher level. The higher levels also mean immunities to stun/mez. Velious stuff hits harder across the board too, and again, higher levels mean still harder hits on top of that.

But VoG, boon, c2, tash, charm, all still godly. And mana drains, other debuffs, increasingly important in raids. CC is still important, just in a less "we've got a chanter so we can just faceroll our way through 99% of all of Kunark" way and more in a "we got a rampaging level 58 named aggrod on our group of 4 60s along with 2 adds... hopefully the ench can manage some CC to get us through alive!" way.


I haven't been playing at all really, ruined. And if soloing on a chanter didn't work in Velious, I certainly wouldn't be leveling my necro named SOLOmancer up to try to solo in Velious, haha :p

Fiyero 07-14-2014 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tacitus (Post 1534310)
Are Enchanters less usefull in Velious? Starting thinking about making one and leveling him insanely to play during velious but heard they are not effective...anyone have more info on this?

Yes, they are less useful due to the high magic resistance of mobs and mez/charm immunity. Doesn't mean they're useless, but enchanters start to become more buff bots with velious.

applesauce25r624 07-14-2014 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by phacemeltar (Post 1534313)
iirc theres 2 reasons:

2. items come with clarity preinstalled, making casted clarity less needed

????? back to your shadow priest --->

webrunner5 07-15-2014 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Fiyero (Post 1534348)
Yes, they are less useful due to the high magic resistance of mobs and mez/charm immunity. Doesn't mean they're useless, but enchanters start to become more buff bots with velious.

Pretty much what he said, BUT you are still going to need one in a group to make stuff happen. You had better be good friends with a Warrior, Cleric, Enchanter and a good Rogue in Velious to have a pretty damn successful group day in and day out. Well and Monk or SK to pull also. A Pally is not bad either to pull in Velious. A Cleric can do it too but they need to be sitting on their ass and medding. Sort of a thankless job. No time to go pee even lol. Sort of where "Poopsocking" probably came from!

No doubt an Enchanter will not be as OP in Velious as they are in Kunark but they will sure as hell be worth playing in it. Only a Shaman and a Monk as far as I am concerned will really be better in Velious than any other class will. And believe it or not a Ranger solo will be a pretty good class to play and you WILL need them to track and raid.

Clark 07-15-2014 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gimp (Post 1534326)
Less OP, still very viable.



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