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Tecmos Deception 01-05-2014 08:01 AM

PnP huh?
 
Go figure *I'M* the one who would follow the policy, but every time I try to point out other people are supposed to share their stuff now, this kind of thing happens:


I go into south, a small group there is killing 2 PH (central and eastern ones) and leaving the other three up because the "crappy" nameds are up in those three spots. I figure that surely a group won't mind sharing their camp since I only want one of the five spawns, and they'll still have excellent chances of popping "good" nameds even with me clearing 1 PH. Before I even engage anything:

[Sun Jan 05 06:19:38 2014] Iskeevo says out of character, 'DICK'

[Sun Jan 05 06:21:43 2014] Tolpa says out of character, 'south camped'

[Sun Jan 05 06:21:58 2014] Tolpa -> Tecmos: Tecmos Deception!
[Sun Jan 05 06:22:03 2014] Tecmos -> Tolpa: Hi
[Sun Jan 05 06:22:31 2014] Tecmos -> Tolpa: I saw you guys over there, but Ill just be killing the one spawn in this corner over here that you are leaving alone anyway

[Sun Jan 05 06:23:36 2014] Tyrfling says out of character, 'SOUTH IS CAMPED'
[Sun Jan 05 06:24:11 2014] You say out of character, 'You guys are clearly not killing all of south, so I'm taking one of the 5 spawns that you're not touching'
[Sun Jan 05 06:25:45 2014] Xhosa says out of character, 'there are only 7 ppl in zone tecmos, and 5 are standing here, so go away'
[Sun Jan 05 06:25:59 2014] You say out of character, 'HEY! I know! Let's petition a GM about PNp and see what happens'
[Sun Jan 05 06:26:22 2014] Xhosa says out of character, 'go for it, we're talkin to rogean in /gu right now, want me ask him to send you a tell bitch?'
[Sun Jan 05 06:26:37 2014] You say out of character, 'Let's see what he says'


At this point I've still only killed a couple trash mobs that these guys weren't remotely close to.

[Sun Jan 05 06:27:08 2014] Iskeevo -> Tecmos: thx for fuckin up our thing man
[Sun Jan 05 06:27:25 2014] Iskeevo -> Tecmos: worked hard to get it set up like that
[Sun Jan 05 06:28:03 2014] Tecmos -> Iskeevo: Relax. I havent killed any nameds yet. And dont get me started about how many times MY efforts in here have been wasted because of someone else :p

[Sun Jan 05 06:29:52 2014] You say out of character, 'Well? What's big Rogean saying?'


At this point I got sick of this and camped out. But yeah, like I said. Go figure that I, an anti-PnP guy, am the guy who has always shared south (and without a bitchfest about it), even before PnP, even when it meant my efforts of setting the wing up to be ideal for my farming would be wasted. But the sort who stand to benefit most from the sharing policy being enforced go full retard when I want to do a little something that isn't even directly affecting their camp.

Sure is a shame that the PnP specifically refuses to define "camp," and that I'm going to come across as the whiny bitch here by asking that the rules we have in place get applied even though I was the only civil one involved in the situation, etc. Oh well.

Tecmos Deception 01-05-2014 08:06 AM

Most fun part of all is that apparently in the time it took me to write this, the group decided to leave south.

Derubael 01-05-2014 01:29 PM

Xhosa says out of character, 'go for it, we're talkin to rogean in /gu right now, want me ask him to send you a tell bitch?'

This is the part that shocks me the most.

Xhosa, if you're reading this, don't ever let me catch you making a comment like this again. Using a staff member, particularly Rogean, to try and bully someone into doing what you want never has been, and never will be, appropriate. If you really think Rogean would have 'sent him a tell, bitch' in this situation, I suggest you allow him to do so instead of opening your mouth in OOC and saying something stupid like this.

arsenalpow 01-05-2014 01:34 PM

I think Xhosa is a BDA trial, can you list the other people that were there? If here were more BDA involved id like to sort them out because if the story played out like you're saying it did that's not gonna fly.

If it turns out you tried to muscle in on something they were trying to pull then we'll address that.

Rhambuk 01-05-2014 01:35 PM

maybe I don't understand how HS named ph work but why would they care at all?

unless they were worried you might acci-train them or....I dunno even know man.

Erati 01-05-2014 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhambuk (Post 1258275)
maybe I don't understand how HS named ph work but why would they care at all?

unless they were worried you might acci-train them or....I dunno even know man.

by leaving 'crappy' named up they wont spawn in other locations that you are actively clearing and thus when a named does show up in the spot you are clearing it will be one of the ones that hasnt been left up sitting there

for South, usually you leave the Spectre Spiritulist and the Skeleton Sepulcher up and maybe even the Crypt Feaster so that the only named that show up in the spot you are clearing are the good ones ( Crypt Spectre and Fluid )

arsenalpow 01-05-2014 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erati (Post 1258278)
by leaving 'crappy' named up they wont spawn in other locations that you are actively clearing and thus when a named does show up in the spot you are clearing it will be one of the ones that hasnt been left up sitting there

for South, usually you leave the Spectre Spiritulist and the Skeleton Sepulcher up and maybe even the Crypt Feaster so that the only named that show up in the spot you are clearing are the good ones ( Crypt Spectre and Fluid )

That doesn't work. Force spawning the good stuff is a myth.

Erati 01-05-2014 01:42 PM

well was just explaining the thought process of the others why they got upset initially

arsenalpow 01-05-2014 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erati (Post 1258286)
well was just explaining the thought process of the others why they got upset initially

Well then the BDA app is loud AND stupid. Probably a bad start

Tecmos Deception 01-05-2014 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arsenalpow (Post 1258285)
That doesn't work. Force spawning the good stuff is a myth.

I have never, ever, ever seen two of the same named up except after a server repop when everything was presumably respawned at the same instant. I guess it is possible that there is an X% chance of a trash spawn and then a (Y/5)% chance for each of the 5 nameds, but from all the hours I've spent in HS it feels more like an X% chance of trash and a Y% chance of A named, and only after the game decides to pop a named does it determine which will spawn.


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