Rules Lawyers
 

I'm curious how other people feel about the rules lawyers out there. You know the people who throw the rule book at you anytime it benefits them while they do something shady.

First example
I was in Lguk the other day, it was me and 1 other person (soloing at the zone line) in the whole zone. I was camping the ass/sup room but also killing the ritualist. Someone came in and did a champ check. I called ass/sup but not the ritualist. a min later while i was killing the ritualist he send me a tell to ask where i am. I tell him in in front of ritualist. He goes on to start quoting server rules to me about how I can't claim 2 camps, I had to pick one. I said I wasn't claiming 2 and he was free to take the ritualist, I was only claiming ass/sup. This wasn't good enough for him though because i wasn't currently in the ass/sup spawn room, even though it was cleared. So I moved there because he started quoting rules about claiming camps and that I had to be in the room. There was so many other camps he could have taken. Mine was the only one claimed in the entire place but clearly he came for that one and was going to try and rules lawyer me out of it.

Second example
I've been playing an alt in crushbone with my brother who is new to the server and every night we see the same 2 lev 60s come into the zone and slaughter everything in it. Literally everything, they run around pulling everything they can find and then AOE it all. When I complained they said the zone was empty. Well it wasn't, there was at least 5 people there trying to find mobs unsuccessfully. They said I could have a camp but I had to tell them which one it was I wanted. I was level 10 at the time and realistically i wanted to to was roam around looking for anything that coned blue to me. Because it was low pop there was more than enough to go around but there wasn't a specific camp that would have been as good as moving around. None of that really matters though because lev 60s shouldn't be killign everything in the zone unless its actually empty. I realize the rule book doesn't stop them from doing this. I have no problem with them coming in to farm an item but to kill everything in the zone leaving us nothing is crap. The people of appropriate level shouldn't have to come in and ask for permission to get a mob of some level 60s that are there every night. Today they were in there again and when they did a CC my group called the castle. We had just got there recently and didn't have a full group yet so we were slowly pulling it. They decided that because most of the TR was up and we were not inside that we had no claim on it so they moved in and took it over.

Petitioning things like this is petty and i doubt the GMs would bother to do anything about it especially since the rules actually allow them to do this kind of thing. Just because something is ok by the rules doesn't mean you should do it. If training people became legal tomorrow I wouldn't do it simply because its a dick move.

I just dont understand people like this at all. There is no excuse for being a selfish prick just because the rules allow you to be so.

One of the biggest negatives on the server is the camp lawyers. If you encounter one, don't engage in any "paragraph 12, subsection 3" shit... tell them to petition a GM if they don't like that you've claimed a camp they want. Stand your ground in all cases like these. If a GM turns up and makes a verdict, accept it... but you don't have to tow the line with some bitter unemployed 40 year old living in his mom's basement.

As for Crushbone, I've had exactly that happen to me a couple of weeks ago. Sounds like powerlevelling, and if its at the expense of people who want to level legitimately then I'd ask them to keep it to one camp (throne room?) and let everyone else do their thing, or ask to be invited into the PL group ;) ...if they refuse, petition. Powerlevelling done right doesn't involve CB at all anyway :p

definitely not PLing cause it was just the 2 60s, they didnt have anyone with em. I've tried talking to them they just don't don't cooperate because they simply don't have to and dont seem to care. I assume they are farming belts and pads. Either way its disruptive to the zone when people are trying to level.

What are their names?

toe the line

This is why camps were never acknowledged officially on live. The player base honored them, as players should, but once you actually make rules about camps it opens a whole can of worms that fucksticks, like the ones who infest this server, can use to abuse people who just want to play the game, unfortunately. The rules here are obviously well intended, but it's just as obvious that they are easily and rampantly used to pin people down to a single spawn so that said fuckstick can take everything else. Because, yeah, soloing a named camp also means you aren't supposed to get exp or pull anything else while waiting 25 mins between spawns. It's absurd.

Welcome to p99.

It would really be nice if you didn't have to have rules about camps and people just not be assholes. But that's probably too much to ask. What would also be nice would be if staff would start enforcing the zone disruption aspects of the pnp as it was done on live. That would thin out the nutsack population a bit.

Wife and I started on this server maybe a month or so ago; found the same thing in CB and it is rather pathetic. Seems like a few zones are like that, just like they were on Live back in the day.

Nice thing about EQ is just how big it is. There are lots of zones where you can hunt/camp in peace and get away from the farmers and PL's. I will say that the majority of nice folks, far far outnumber the bad ones... again, just like Live was :)

OP's problems would be solved by rolling on the red server where he could kill said rule lawyers