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Estu 08-16-2013 01:24 PM

Bixie Sword Blade
 
So is this the best weapon in the game, or is there an attack delay cap that makes it worse than it seems? Has anyone done some analysis on whether it actually hits once every 0.6 seconds?

kaev 08-16-2013 01:55 PM

The ToothpickOfDoom[tm]! It's pretty grand. I've been told that FD (epic) outdamages it when parsed in-game, but have not tested yet myself. It has drawbacks tho, vs. a DS it can be amazingly deadly to the wielder, and vs. a mob with riposte and a nasty or annoying proc it can be pretty unpleasant also (try attacking a chromadrac from the front with it, how fast you can erase all your buffs?)

Stinkum 08-16-2013 02:00 PM

It was changed from 6 delay to 16. Source

With that said, I believe there is some kind of minimum attack delay that was discussed in one of the pre-nerf Moss Covered Twig threads. In other words, with a 6 delay weapon and 100% haste, you still can't attack quicker than around 5 delay iirc.

Estu 08-16-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stinkum (Post 1076582)
It was changed from 6 delay to 16. Source

With that said, I believe there is some kind of minimum attack delay that was discussed in one of the pre-nerf Moss Covered Twig threads. In other words, with a 6 delay weapon and 100% haste, you still can't attack quicker than around 5 delay iirc.

Changed in 2001, though. If the cap is 5 delay, that's still pretty good. I'd be a little surprised if fiery defender (or any weapon for any class, for that matter) outdid it, but I haven't done any damage bonus math.

koros 08-16-2013 02:04 PM

If anything is outparsing it, then there's a delay cap.

koros 08-16-2013 02:05 PM

If the delay cap is 5, then at 100% haste FD would handily outdamage it.

Estu 08-16-2013 03:08 PM

Hmm, so assuming you have 100% haste, the weapon is effectively the same as a 2/10, for the purposes of comparing it with other weapons. Good to know.

Tecmos Deception 08-16-2013 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kaev (Post 1076571)
vs. a mob with riposte and a nasty or annoying proc

Mobs can proc on ripostes?

pallius 08-16-2013 10:40 PM

Delay cap was 10 for a long time on live.

Twig sucks. Bixie sucks. Overrated rumor weapons.

(good for push though)

Treats 08-17-2013 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pallius (Post 1077326)
Delay cap was 10 for a long time on live.

Twig sucks. Bixie sucks. Overrated rumor weapons.

(good for push though)

There was a delay cap on Live but the only thing that determined it was how fast the server ticked. Live servers refreshed every 10/128 = 0.078 seconds. This was the Minimum Delay of a weapon.

1 delay weapon = 100 milliseconds or .1 seconds for reference

Kanras lowered the minimum weapon delay to 5 awhile ago (.5 seconds or 500 milliseconds). This is still wrong, it should only be determined by a server tick. Bixie Sword Blade is still garbage because of this.

That being said though I think EQEmu has a differing value from Live for server ticks, it is not 0.078 seconds. I think it might be something like 0.093, not sure but whatever this number is it SHOULD be your Minimum Delay.

I'll bump the thread I made in the bug forum that got it changed to 5, maybe Kanras or someone could change it again.


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