| loramin |
06-07-2020 11:39 AM |
P.S. Here's one more quote I found on the topic, from https://wiki.project1999.com/Rulings (again, emphasis added):
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Originally Posted by GM Menden
Menden: Unofficially speaking, AC camp, sure. If you are next at the list I would stay near by so the trade off can happen quickly. If the list keeper gets his spawn and leaves and you are not there, you can lose the camp. For SF, I find it dumb to have to stay in the zone for that long. But if you wish to keep your spot it's in your best interest to be there during the spawns.
The thing is, lists are really driven by the players, if you are the list keeper it's in your rights to tell people if they want on the list, they must stay in the zone.
Here's the thing folks, we want people to have fun, but there are lots of players who like to abuse what we say and what few rules we have out there. If we suspect you are lawyerquesting or being a dick, we have no issue suspending you for PNP. If you feel I'm not being fair, go speak to Llandris, Braknar or Sirken. Don't be a jerk to me, I'm really here to help you guys enjoy the game.
If you ever need help understanding how a camp in particular works, don't be afraid of posting in the petitions / exploits forums asking a question, I'm happy to work it out with you. But keep in mind, we don't have solid rules written down for specific camps because every situation is different, but we do state guidelines here and there.
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So we do have the idea of a "list keeper" mentioned, which implies that a list is something the staff recognize as existing outside of an agreement between two players ... but we still have no further clarification of how this rules mechanism works, and when player's are/aren't obligated to follow it ... and we even have a GM flat out saying "as list keeper you can void the list for anyone not in zone", implying the list keeper has a fair amount of discretion. But let's say "list keeper #1" sets the rule that you do/don't have to stay in zone: can "list keeper #2" change that?
Of course, it also says "If you ever need help understanding how a camp in particular works, don't be afraid of posting in the petitions / exploits forums asking a question" ... so maybe we all should take Menden at his word, and someone should post a petition/question about what exactly are the rules for lists? ;)
P.S. On an unrelated (and kind of useless) note, while I was looking for that I stumbled across an official definition of how long you have to wait in order to wait a "reasonable time" to claim someone else's camp ... IF that camp happens to be an insanely long one like SF:
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Originally Posted by GM Menden
If you are camping SF and you are AFK during the time it spawned. Another player grabs FTE prior to the 5ish minutes(so it doesn't path too far away), I would tag it asap. This will show us in our logs that you were active. If we see you didn't tag it till after that 5ish minutes, you will probably be SOL.
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Is that especially helpful for any other camp? Not really :) But at least now we know that the maximum upper bounds on "a reasonable time" is five(ish) minutes! |
