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long.liam 11-27-2022 06:48 AM

Is a Mage + Shaman a Good duo?
 
Has anyone done this duo before? I was in a group on my shaman in velks with 2 mages and we were melting everything. It got me thinking about the possiblity of Mage + Shaman Duo with a friend. Is this a decent duo makeup?

Jimjam 11-27-2022 08:23 AM

Shaman makes a good duo.

Vexenu 11-27-2022 09:44 AM

It's very strong and underrated. It's basically Monk/Shaman without the Monk pulls. As long as you don't need a ton of CC you'll do well with it. Regen cast on the pet, slowed mob and innate pet Regen means the Mage pet barely even needs healing. Mage and Shaman both casting their clickie nukes make it even more disgusting.

unleashedd 11-27-2022 11:52 AM

what mage click nukes?

Snaggles 11-27-2022 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by unleashedd (Post 3538182)
what mage click nukes?

Burnt Wood Staff is a 333 fire bolt 13.5 sec click = 25dps
Velk Boots is shock of swords, 600dd like 17 sec click = 35dps

Back to the question though, yea mage and sham is a great duo. You are relying on root CC’s and slows though. Not horrible though with two pets to send in for the initial root-tab work. A mage with clicky robe and legs can also DS and Haste making for pretty cheap upkeep. It’s prob not worth healing them unless the sham has Torp.

The 57 earth is an absolute brute. Shams are well, shams. At 60 the duo just gets stronger. Doing tough stuff with two (or more) pets of you lose one the mob won’t summon either so the sham pet is very useful even if doing a fraction of the dps.

Toxigen 11-27-2022 09:13 PM

It’s an above average duo that can easily level to 60. Just going to fall off at 60 because it’s basically the shaman solo with some extra dps. Doesn’t really open up any more camps.

The pets just aren’t durable enough to justify over monk / war / enc (pets).

If you’re looking to level a mage, it would certainly be a big help to have a shaman static duo instead of going it alone though!

magnetaress 11-27-2022 10:36 PM

yeah its pretty lete mage + ench + clr is best tho its insane what a fully buffed mage pet can do with complete heal and u dont have to worry about charm or u can optionally charm and have literally two mega insane over 10k hp pets lawl

mage DS is sick and kinda makes up for lower pet dps than other stuff in exp situations

Snaggles 11-28-2022 01:59 PM

A top hitting focused water pet is no slouch. It’s not as impressive on like Vindi due to the level gap (tho, still surprisingly decent compared to mid-tier melees) but on non-raid targets they really rip. Add the DS dps and any clicky item and a mage can sustain very solid numbers with a low mana spend.

As for using the pet to tank. Prob not the best strategy. A 60 PC melee is going to take hits and survive better with torp than a 40’something pet. Unless you are comparing like a poorly geared ranger or bard to the epic pet, I guess in that case it’s pretty tanky.

https://i.ibb.co/RHHqBKm/2-C7392-E9-...73-B54-C09.png
(Focused 60 hitting water with deadwood’s. Monk was 60 and I believe with an IFS)

Tigerstyle Wutangfist 11-29-2022 03:59 AM

It’s a good duo that can lazyquest some targets other duos (mainly without a shaman) could not succeed.

However you will find they do not complement each other. The mages best weapon is DS (epic pet or otherwise) which is negated heavily by slow; while at the same time the primary heal (torpor) severely lowers DPS.

Toxigen 11-29-2022 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigerstyle Wutangfist (Post 3538717)
It’s a good duo that can lazyquest some targets other duos (mainly without a shaman) could not succeed.

However you will find they do not complement each other. The mages best weapon is DS (epic pet or otherwise) which is negated heavily by slow; while at the same time the primary heal (torpor) severely lowers DPS.

Pretty sure this is a leveling question - and its a mediocre to decent option. At 60 for cash camps, a shaman would prefer any melee / enc / necro.

Say if a group of friends wanted a coth mage and did not have a shaman in their stable of chars yet - perfect hypothetical to justify the duo.

If we're talking best leveling duo partners for mages, id rank shaman below enchanter / necro / bard and about equal to a decently played charming druid.

The shaman vs druid question is an interesting one...stacking DS on two charm pets sounds pretty sweet. Would likely edge out shaman in leveling speed.


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