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sajbert 03-20-2023 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bockscar (Post 3591225)
It's still a 1 AC bracer on a tank class. It sucks.

Tell me more how you will ever notice a loss of 4 ac.

magnetaress 03-20-2023 02:23 PM

High elf. Max wisdom.


Or human. Max dex.

Jimjam 03-20-2023 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sajbert (Post 3591265)
Tell me more how you will ever notice a loss of 4 ac.

Furthermore they mentioned pvp server, where iirc dex/agi seems to be more helpful?

Snaggles 03-20-2023 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Crede (Post 3591242)
I'd rather have the CHA for more dangerous lulls like HS, seb, velks, etc. I went wis on my pally and found basically zero use for it. if I need to get off one extra hot with that extra wis then I prob lost the fight anyway. But ymmv.

Crawling HS as the puller I guess would be dodgy with low CHA and no CC. That said, eventually a crit fail will happen. Murphy’s Law and all that.

I don’t go full out with my CHA set. Earrings, bracers, neck (I use a +6). Ennewi mentioned a ToFS stein for 10 more and I don’t use a loddy shield. There are plenty of ways to get that stay very high no matter what race you pick.

If you have a specific need sure, do whatever you want. I just think nudging new players down this road isn’t necessarily. I sure never needed 200+ CHA and found the road to 60 remarkably easy.

agalig2 03-21-2023 08:59 AM

Dwarf Paladin of Brell whose god personally appeared to him in a vision and told him that alcohol must be abandoned, like that one guy in Thurgadin, except with a flaming sword.

Also barrel roll.

pink grapefruit 03-21-2023 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimjam (Post 3591317)
Furthermore they mentioned pvp server, where iirc dex/agi seems to be more helpful?

What??

please explain!

Insaiyan 03-22-2023 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pint (Post 3590830)
https://i.imgur.com/Z5Lgs1B.png

i quit raiding years ago and will probably never finish this toon. i went sta/agi, if i could do it again id go wis/agi.

69 charisma. Nice.

Pint 03-22-2023 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Insaiyan (Post 3591895)
69 charisma. Nice.

Thanks for noticing ; )

sajbert 03-22-2023 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pink grapefruit (Post 3591593)
What??

please explain!

agi and dex is supposedly impactful when calculating melee damage.

magnetaress 03-22-2023 11:11 AM

You shouldn't be crawling anywhere that is remotely dangerous solo. Take someone with you. They will appreciate your extra wisdom.

The upside of dex is every class has a nice proc weapon and 20 extra dex can make a significant difference on those dice.

I used to be a huge advocate for cha. Really 120 is sufficient and you'll accidentally get that. And if you get a crit resist your going to gate pot or root camp anyway. Or just rez urself.

Most pulls in the game can be accomplished with root and a body to dish out enough dps so all you have to do is root and spot heal. Big charisma is nice. It's a bonus. At 200 you'll get lucky much more with crit fails. It's not game changing tho.


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