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Jimjam 12-08-2022 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimjam (Post 3541301)
. Gives a great opportunity to whip out Earthcaller or some Word of Whatevers.

Meant to say Earthshaker obviously.

Toxigen 12-08-2022 09:56 AM

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1232511853

Homesteaded 12-08-2022 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Toxigen (Post 3541982)

Why does that bard pet instantly pull aggro after re-charming? If that was a mage pet the aggro does not go back to the pet like it is that charm pet.

Encroaching Death 12-08-2022 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Homesteaded (Post 3542073)
Why does that bard pet instantly pull aggro after re-charming? If that was a mage pet the aggro does not go back to the pet like it is that charm pet.

I also noticed "Damn, Bards have to recharm like crazy..."

Crede 12-08-2022 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Encroaching Death (Post 3542075)
I also noticed "Damn, Bards have to recharm like crazy..."

Yea unfortunately the higher level bard charm sucks. It only lasts 3 ticks and costs mana.

The lower level one lasts 4 ticks, and costs no mana, which makes bards probably the best dungeon soloer from 27-51 if you're good but unfortunately most miss out on all this and just swarm. Having your chant dots rolling while swapping targets for charm drops the mobs insanely fast.

Toxigen 12-08-2022 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Homesteaded (Post 3542073)
Why does that bard pet instantly pull aggro after re-charming? If that was a mage pet the aggro does not go back to the pet like it is that charm pet.

When charm fades its an aggro wipe. Think hes juggling between mobs.

unsunghero 12-08-2022 05:35 PM

Lol P99 enchanter charm literally never breaks early

It will always last until the exact end of the spell duration even if tash fades

Get fucked, sub-par classes. I didn’t pay real $$ to Nilbog for power to have your class compete

astuce999 12-09-2022 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Toxigen (Post 3541982)

lol'ed on cantata. Good show though.

Homesteaded 12-09-2022 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Toxigen (Post 3542168)
When charm fades its an aggro wipe. Think hes juggling between mobs.

That's completely fucked. Mages are currently hamstrung by this mechanic not working like that. When a mage pet dies the mage gets ALL of the aggro that the mage pet built.

Renault 12-09-2022 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Homesteaded (Post 3542426)
That's completely fucked. Mages are currently hamstrung by this mechanic not working like that. When a mage pet dies the mage gets ALL of the aggro that the mage pet built.

It's a totally different mechanic and works the same for all charm classes. When you charm a mob it wipes his memory. When the charm breaks the Bard has a single point of threat, but that's it - no additional threat nor any of the damage dealt by/to that pet is remembered.

Bard charming is usually done by swapping back and forth between two mobs, using this mechanic. IE:

Charm pet 1
Dot up pet 2
On break of pet 1 (which has only one point of aggro on bard), charm pet 2
Dot up pet 1

If a bard has to keep the same pet for some reason (ie trying to kill a named that he cannot charm), then the bard has to either kite the named, not use dots/slows on the named, or use his threat drop song to remove his threat


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