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visage 08-06-2012 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Theta (Post 700846)
Uhh.. Zimmerman also had violent crimes in his past, as well as being sent to anger management for assault of a police officer. Plz do homework b4 racism.

Also, Zimmerman never identified himself as a "neighborhood watch captain." He just approached Martin (who was walking in his own neighborhood), began verbally harassing him, more than likely flashed his gun at Martin who reacted the way that he did.

Please, everyone trying to character assassinate Martin, put yourself in this situation: You're a black youth, approached by a large white guy who's calling at you, not identifying himself in any way whatsoever, you see his gun or he tries to grab you, and you defend yourself.

In this whole situation, Martin was defending himself so much more than Zimmerman was acting in self-defense. Zimmerman was reacting to the self-defense that Martin was enacting. Simply not lawful.


List the violent crimes and do your home work on a 17 year old kid with counts of burglary and theft and assaults. Given the age of Zimmerman 28 now more mature. Given his position and hell even employment. I can profoundly say his rational thought would be more creditable than a 17 year old future convict with no employment. Or any signs of aspirations of than crime and smoking. Think about it here Zimmerman is employed with wife etc. Signs of responsibility. He may had issues in his past , but has time to reconcile them and grow the fuck up. This kid had NONE> Who is to say this kid would've turned out great. Quite frankly your looking at a relevant facts , versus past history. This kids had these crimes recently... So recent you can even put it in comparison to Zimmerman. Get out of town with your care bear logic of self defense. I'm sure this punk ass kid claims self defense every time he stole and started a fight. This is only counting the ones on his own personal record. Lord only knows how much else this kid got into. Kids getting shot is a terrible thing. However, actions and recent and relevant facts show the character of the individual. Show me one positive thing this kid was doing at his age other than going to the store for his mom. I guarantee you the crime will out weight anything of sheer thought of responsibility or rational thinking. This kid was lost , unfortunately was found and called in for the idiot lost boy he was.

Theta 08-06-2012 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by visage (Post 700855)
List the violent crimes and do your home work on a 17 year old kid with counts of burglary and theft and assaults. Given the age of Zimmerman 28 now more mature. Given his position and hell even employment. I can profoundly say his rational thought would be more creditable than a 17 year old future convict with no employment. Or any signs of aspirations of than crime and smoking. Think about it here Zimmerman is employed with wife etc. Signs of responsibility. He may had issues in his past , but has time to reconcile them and grow the fuck up. This kid had NONE> Who is to say this kid would've turned out great. Quite frankly your looking at a relevant facts , versus past history. This kids had these crimes recently... So recent you can even put it in comparison to Zimmerman. Get out of town with your care bear logic of self defense. I'm sure this punk ass kid claims self defense every time he stole and started a fight. This is only counting the ones on his own personal record. Lord only knows how much else this kid got into. Kids getting shot is a terrible thing. However, actions and recent and relevant facts show the character of the individual. Show me one positive thing this kid was doing at his age other than going to the store for his mom. I guarantee you the crime will out weight anything of sheer thought of responsibility or rational thinking. This kid was lost , unfortunately was found and called in for the idiot lost boy he was.

Ah-- You're a troll.

Final piece of the puzzle. Thanks.

visage 08-06-2012 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Theta (Post 700857)
Ah-- You're a troll.

Final piece of the puzzle. Thanks.

Good come back. AKA " Hi I want to compare 10 year old history and past with recent history of less than 1 year... and claim the two are comparable" I also want to compare the rational thinking of a unemployed 17 year old with counts of burglary, theft, and assault. With a 28 year old with past incidents , who is employed , has a wife, and aspirations with his recent self." Though I cannot defend my statements because you outlined clearly my own idiotic rational thinking. I will say " Troll". End.

Kevlar 08-08-2012 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Theta (Post 700846)
Uhh.. Zimmerman also had violent crimes in his past, as well as being sent to anger management for assault of a police officer. Plz do homework b4 racism.

Zimmerman basically defended someone from an out of uniform cop in a bar, and the cop pulled his weight with the badge. That is why there was no conviction.

Slathar 08-09-2012 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by NeverGone (Post 702594)
This is probably the only subject matter that I will agree with Naez on 100% repeatedly. Applying for my LTC-A this week, even.

sweet, another lunatic with a gun.

Greegon 08-09-2012 01:35 AM

gdamn don't get why this incident gets so much attention, feel like it outraged more people than the dude that shot up the batman theatre. People get shot evvvery dayyyy in chicago practically

Kevlar 08-09-2012 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Greegon (Post 702652)
gdamn don't get why this incident gets so much attention, feel like it outraged more people than the dude that shot up the batman theatre. People get shot evvvery dayyyy in chicago practically

Black off duty cop in Baltimore chased down a kid for throwing rocks at his door, caught him hiding in a bush and strangled him to death.

Wonder why that isn't making national headlines?

Oh yeah the asshole cop was black. Won't see any million man marches for that poor kid.

Hitchens 08-09-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevlar (Post 703396)
Won't see any million man marches for that poor kid.

RANDALLSTOWN, Md. – A throng of protesters took to the streets to express outrage that an African American teen, accused of beating on an off-duty police officer’s front door and causing damage, died after being chased down and beaten during a fight with the Baltimore County officer.

http://rollingout.com/culture/anothe...olice-officer/

As to why it isn't all over the national media, most likely because neither the police department, the cop's attorney nor the family of the teen killed are interested in talking to them. You need people willing to be a spectacle in order to have a media frenzy.

Pico 08-09-2012 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverGone (Post 702594)
This is probably the only subject matter that I will agree with Naez on 100% repeatedly. Applying for my LTC-A this week, even.

nice another wade michael page in the making, which sikh temple will u target just curious

Orruar 08-10-2012 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevlar (Post 703396)
Black off duty cop in Baltimore chased down a kid for throwing rocks at his door, caught him hiding in a bush and strangled him to death.

Wonder why that isn't making national headlines?

Oh yeah the asshole cop was black. Won't see any million man marches for that poor kid.

Or even more directly to the point...

Two black teens savagely beat a white man in the head with a hammer. Happened in Sanford, FL, only miles away from the Trayvon shooting. Happened on March 27, the day after a march in town led by Jesse Jackson, where he gave the usual speech inflaming racial tensions. None of this made the national media. I only knew about it because I live about 15 miles from this whole circus.

http://www.examiner.com/article/two-...ear-sanford-fl


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