Great: your words make sense to you in your brain. But again, I wasn't talking about making things make sense to Tecmos, it was about making it clear to everyone in the forum what a person means when they say "I soloed ___".

Again, I NEVER said "my list is better than Tecmos's!" Seriously, show me the quote if I did, but I don't think I ever did (I have too much respect for you to do that). All I did was propose a simple list (clearly inspired by your's) to start a conversation, and you're acting like I stabbed you in the back or something.

If everyone agrees that Wort potions don't matter to soloing, great! If the community says "it makes sense to mention puppet strings, but not wort potions", GREAT! I will 100% support that and use whatever term we want to use for "I soloed ____ using wort potions but not puppet strings".

But I reject the idea that any player just gets to arbitrarily decide the rules of (as I keep repeating) A LARGELY PERSONAL CHALLENGE. I don't think anyone should tell someone else how to play a game, or even just how to talk about it. Let's let the community decide that last part.

I really don't think it should be about anyone "gatekeeping" or "judging" anyone else. I just would prefer less forum arguments resulting from person A and person B having different definitions of "soloing", and I could care less how we improve communication, as long as it's something everyone can agree on.

I don't think your categories are bad or wrong, and I wasn't in any way trying to ignore them and replace them with mine (although I do think they're not 100% clear). At the very least "strong clickies" needs definition, but more importantly I just don't think "repeat Tecmo's asterisks and plus symbols in forum posts and everyone will just magically know what they mean and think those categories are perfect" is the right solution.

There is a strong difference between soloing a mob with and without clickies.

The use of wort pots alone is a separate category, a clickies category. Maybe can call it the handicap category, heheh.

Hah. That's funny cause my rogue is was drove me to make my enchanter :)

Why would you not invest in clickies and potions the same way you would gear for soloing? That seems like a no brainer to me. Why would you not capitalize on every advantage to solo progressively more powerful and loot rewarding mobs?

If you have consumables to solo farm fungi tunics, why would you not? Because some jerkoff on the wiki is going to say you handicapped soloed?

You really are talking about something you don't know squat about, aren't you?

I didn't make the sac. A straw man about symbols and "magically" knowing what they mean when what they mean is defined for anyone with any interest in knowing? Lol. Wtf?

Again, because this isn't a tournament. There's no referees, no prize money, nothing: the ONLY benefit you get out of being a solo artist is that you can pat yourself on the back and maybe impress your fellow elf sim addicts.

It's not about anyone defining "soloing means with consumables" or "soloing means without consumables". Both can 100% be challenging in their own ways.

It's just about being on the same page and not having one person mean one thing and another mean a different thing, but both use identical language.

You're not even reading what I wrote: it doesn't matter who started it, or who wrote what.

Stop trying to argue with me just because you're butt-hurt over something I never said! Instead, answer this question: do you sincerely think that if everyone here in the forum just said "I soloed ___+" that it would solve all misunderstanding, disagreement, and argument between people who have different ideas of what soloing means?

If you had to choose one sentence to describe Loramin, this would be it.

He's being overly pedantic with classification.

I think this thread lacks contradiction.

My opinion is that soloing mob X is great, but what really matters is "having mob X on farm status solo".

There's a world of difference beween killing, say, Khelkar or seb Emp as a solo enc, and farming him regularly for fun and profit. Simply because you can get the planets properly aligned for that one kill and pull it off against all odds, but it won't happen over and over.
(Still impressed by that solo enc Khelkar kill though...)

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