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Tonomar 10-21-2011 11:47 PM

Hey Melv, good man. How about you?

MakeYouMad 10-22-2011 12:27 AM

Another fun fact: In classic, druid damage shields did full damage.

So if you roll a rogue or monk, not only will you be chain crowd control spammed to death, if you actually get free, the person you're attacking can just sit back, chain heal themselves, and laugh at you.

What is your rationalization for making these classes worse in PvP Null? Rogues obviously don't need any nerfs. Monks have no slam to interrupt casters plus have a much harder time getting resist gear than warriors so there wasn't any reason to make them worse either.

None of these Null changes have a rational effect on balance. The funniest part is that it upgrades hybrids a lot who were probably the best PvP classes to begin with.

Where is the rationale in any of these changes????

Clearrain 10-22-2011 12:43 AM

spam pumice on druids and tap your jboots. Druids are too lazy to get jboots (do they drop in najena again?)

Pumice fucks druids up. The only thing they'll be able to do is nuke you and if they're dumb they'll burn their mana on dotting you.

MakeYouMad 10-22-2011 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Clearrain (Post 440833)
spam pumice on druids and tap your jboots. Druids are too lazy to get jboots (do they drop in najena again?)

Pumice fucks druids up. The only thing they'll be able to do is nuke you and if they're dumb they'll burn their mana on dotting you.

Typically everyone on PvP servers gets instant cast items to avoid being dispelled. Even if they don't have one, the DS will probably be buried somewhat and by the time you get rid of it with your single shot pumice, you'll probably already be dead.

Your post doesn't change anything in the game balance equation I listed above. Classes that are either underpowered or average don't need to be nerfed with Null's poorly thought out changes. While classes such as hybrids that were already awesome at PvP get upgrades. No matter how you look at it, Null's changes make 0 sense.

Dojii 10-22-2011 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MakeYouMad (Post 440847)
No matter how you look at it, Null's changes make 0 sense.

dude u don't know about the inner workings of resist check/system. you think they just copy pasted something from VZTZ. they didn't. everything about this servers code is uniquely combined for THIS server.

post count farming I know you are; but bro, don't be such a nag.

MakeYouMad 10-22-2011 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dojii (Post 440876)
dude u don't know about the inner workings of resist check/system. you think they just copy pasted something from VZTZ. they didn't. everything about this servers code is uniquely combined for THIS server.

Bullshit, when I went on the server and tested it, it performs exactly the same as VZTZ.

Dojii 10-22-2011 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MakeYouMad (Post 440896)
Bullshit, when I went on the server and tested it, it performs exactly the same as VZTZ.

again im saying you don't know the inner workings. so stop crying. you need to read up on some of the things Null has posted and inform yourself a little better. Even if its like vztz, its still done by someone that knows that they're doing and has (100) level at it. +

save us teh QQ and post farm with constructive feedback.

Null 10-22-2011 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MakeYouMad (Post 440896)
Bullshit, when I went on the server and tested it, it performs exactly the same as VZTZ.

I guarantee that it doesn't.

Clearrain 10-22-2011 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MakeYouMad (Post 440847)
Typically everyone on PvP servers gets instant cast items to avoid being dispelled. Even if they don't have one, the DS will probably be buried somewhat and by the time you get rid of it with your single shot pumice, you'll probably already be dead.

Your post doesn't change anything in the game balance equation I listed above. Classes that are either underpowered or average don't need to be nerfed with Null's poorly thought out changes. While classes such as hybrids that were already awesome at PvP get upgrades. No matter how you look at it, Null's changes make 0 sense.

DS doesn't have that long of a timer if memory serves. No matter how many instants they have, pumice was always helpful - it can also be casted on yourself.. which is the best weapon vs things like druids.

MakeYouMad 10-22-2011 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Clearrain (Post 440917)
DS doesn't have that long of a timer if memory serves. No matter how many instants they have, pumice was always helpful - it can also be casted on yourself.. which is the best weapon vs things like druids.

Yes, you cast single shot pumice 10 times on the druid while he nukes you into the ground, winning strategy.


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