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Trexller 01-29-2025 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by shovelquest (Post 3718362)
If we didnt move manufacturing to china, we'd have all of that here. But we sold out. Sold ourselves all out.

And for what?

this was all for no other reason then shareholder dividends, and the massive enrichment of the very few.

americans demanded higher wages, the government demanded taxes and environmental conservation.

30 years ago in china you barely had to pay people, the government wanted you to be there because they are on a long term plan to modernize and make money to fund their commie/fascist dreams, and you are allowed to pollute as much as you want if you can do so without bringing international attention.

shovelquest 01-29-2025 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope (Post 3718365)
You can get disqualified for any number of mental health conditions can’t you? I only know the MH field, but I have clients all the time say they refuse mental health treatment because they want to be able to join the military and don’t want their records pulled

If it causes some form of life stress (in various categories) then it is considered dysphoric, and the majority I believe are

So the only real losers here are trans people who are not dysphoric, and this is a small subsection of a small subsection now

Up until the dick Cheney's and john Bolton's of this world made up the democrat party, being a draft dodger was considered smart and cool to democrats. Like from 1960-2016.

Remember trump was a democrat back then, and he did say he was smart not to be drafted (which he was Id shoot anyone who tries to draft me).

Ekco 01-29-2025 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Botten (Post 3718331)
A new record was broken today in America $2 trillion was lost in the stock market!

it wasn't lost, it went somewhere, people that just bought into Nvidia and other tech companies after they've already gone up 9,000% or whatever since covid deserve to have their money taken.

and it's not real until they sell their stonks for a lose. there are people who are still waiting to break even on IBM and Oracle and shit from the dot.com bust.

and oh well the retail investor that would have bet that same money on a football game instead "lost"

all the degenerate leveraged option gamblers lost their money though

also it was 1 trillion this week, your thinking of 6 months ago when it was 2 trillion because of the USD/Yen thing

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The sharp rise in the JPY/USD is causing a massive unwind of Yen carry trade positions and contributing to the sharp decline in US stocks. For those who do not understand how this works, a brief explanation

Many traders were borrowing Japanese Yen (JPY) at low, to almost 0% interest rates, converted them to USD and used this to buy US stocks

Now that the Bank of Japan (BOJ) is raising interest rates, the JPY has strengthened significantly against the USD.

Japan’s government is engaged in a GIANT $20 trillion "carry trade“ - the funding of loans and foreign assets by borrowing low-cost yen.
this shouldnt even be legal lol

Trexller 01-29-2025 12:38 AM

yeah the draft was never the best idea, it was culturally more acceptable in like 1940 when everyone had european friends/neighbors and heard about all their relatives dying, WW2 was just the perfect war for patriotism, nations coming together to defeat a common enemy.

but conscripts are never half the soldier that a volunteer is, as long as we have poor people with half a brain, we'll always have reasonable numbers for the military

shovelquest 01-29-2025 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Trexller (Post 3718366)
americans demanded higher wages, the government demanded taxes and environmental conservation.

The best part of the devils trick was by moving the manufacturing over there they could poor paint down the drain while we feel validated because the air clears up here.

Trexller 01-29-2025 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by shovelquest (Post 3718372)
The best part of the devils trick was by moving the manufacturing over there they could poor paint down the drain while we feel validated because the air clears up here.

yep exactly, and then they studied the production facilities that we built there, and our processes and nowadays literally anything that anyone manufactures in china is copied and ripped off, and produced cheaper and sold in other markets.

wall street isn't full of dumb people, they had to understand that this is what is happening to their own investments, and that it could not last forever

but it does build a new super power in the world, political conflicts hot/cold wars are good for business

Ekco 01-29-2025 12:48 AM

they literally thought free markets and liberalism would fix China and Russia, that was the original idea behind globalization

it worked for like 5 minutes when the berlin wall came down though, those fucking people wanted freedom and blue jeans

Reiwa 01-29-2025 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ekco (Post 3718374)
they literally thought free markets and liberalism would fix China and Russia, that was the original idea behind globalization

it worked for like 5 minutes when the berlin wall came down though, those fucking people wanted freedom and blue jeans

You can sell more stuff if everyone has money to spend.

Trexller 01-29-2025 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ekco (Post 3718374)
they literally thought free markets and liberalism would fix China and Russia, that was the original idea behind globalization

it worked for like 5 minutes when the berlin wall came down though, those fucking people wanted freedom and blue jeans

what happened to all the liberalism? they sure could use some now, especially the chicoms who followed 1984 like it was an instruction manual for das kapital

Ekco 01-29-2025 12:57 AM

it's a weird hybrid capitalistic oligarchy that claims to be communist or w/e

can't really argue with results though, wtf timmy gonna do tell them communism has never worked while they line you against a wall? lol.

and it will be tiktok NPCs doing the lining up and shooting also

not like our system is doing any better, we're free and everyone is fucking miserable and chinese people are unified and don't care they can't ask about a random dude standing infront of a tank.


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