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BardPop 04-13-2015 11:06 PM

Mighty Holocaust raids all
Friends/azrael raid under the cover of darkness when nobody is there

Do your own research about pvp, everybody will tell you different. People have a tendency to be huge liars to save face when it comes to pvp, r99pvp.com is good for research.

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Zerg comes from a different game where endless waves of low power enemies swarmed opposition. The first I heard of Zerg on Fennin Ro was when a raid force would use Rez sticks to bring people back into the fight rather than use skill to down the target.
Holo has no zerg mentality, guys who say otherwise are cowards

FaithlessKR 04-13-2015 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ipman_Wingchun (Post 1855431)
Holo is considered a Zerg because they retreat from even fights and come back an hour later with 2-3x tha players. Then they brag of victory. That's been my experience encountering them so far. It isn't just about mobs, it is how they pvp as well.

What he means is that azrael will engage with a well geared group against sub 60 holo players in rags. After seeing a couple YT, geared holo players will come for the pvp and sigh in disbelief as azrael generally plugs/camps/ports out because the fight isn't guaranteed anymore.

Nirgon 04-13-2015 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ipman_Wingchun (Post 1855431)
Holo is considered a Zerg because they retreat from even fights and come back an hour later with 2-3x tha players. Then they brag of victory. That's been my experience encountering them so far. It isn't just about mobs, it is how they pvp as well.

Yet to see a crew on this box that doesn't get viciously raped by AIM chat

Efwan 04-13-2015 11:48 PM

Haha, holo trying to defend it's 80 man severilous raids and 15 vs 6 pvp skirmishes with we aren't a "zerg wtfs?!"

Classic

Timelord 04-14-2015 12:02 AM

Zerg

Tameth 04-14-2015 12:22 AM

so much stupid

iiNGloriouS 04-14-2015 12:42 AM

Feels good fighting side by side with Salt again. That 3v14 at Seb was some good fun. Can't wait for more of that 8)

Videri 04-14-2015 02:58 AM

Good discussion. Here's my perspective. I started here on November 7, 2014 after playing in a progression guild on EQ Live called <Lost in Progression>.

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Originally Posted by Grizzler (Post 1854872)
1.)Is there only 2 guilds currently raiding?

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Originally Posted by Grizzler (Post 1854872)
3.)Are raiding targets constantly being killed by 1 guild only and not others and why?

Well, all five guilds you mentioned raid. However, only <Holocaust> and <Azrael> (+<Friends>?) have enough VP-keyed members to raid Veeshan's Peak, from which the top tier of loot comes (until Velious). <The Curse> and <Fresh> raid other targets/zones including the Plane of Fear, PoHate, PoSky, Vox, Nagafen, Ragefire, Ixiblat, Faydedar, Chardok, The Hole, and more.

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Originally Posted by Grizzler (Post 1854872)
4.)Is there a guild that is constantly griefing/trolling certain zones?

As far as I know, most or all members of <Friends> have faction in Chardok, as well as possibly other zones (The Hole, I believe). They use this faction - along with their high level of gear and, I admit, skill - to disrupt, wipe, and kill other guilds in these zones. I'm sure someone will say "it's classic," but I'm sure it doesn't win them any friends; and it makes you wonder if they are doing anything that a new player would want to be part of.

And as to lower-level twink PKs - since the tiny-guild purge of early 2015, most of them are unguilded, though their mains could be in almost any major guild. I don't know of any way to prove this other then admission.

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Originally Posted by Grizzler (Post 1854872)
2.)Is there a guild that is considered a zerg guild...?

I had so many thoughts on this topic that I started my own thread. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=189125

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Originally Posted by Grizzler (Post 1854872)
5.)Some guilds are heralded as "changing the server", is that the case and why does the server need to be changed?

I and many other players have a vision that a new player should be able to come to Red99 and eventually participate in PvE and PvP at the highest level his/her skills and schedule will permit.
The obstacle to this is a guild with which there can be no competition due to (1) overwhelming numbers and (2) a gear gap between top-tier members of each guild. The gear gap itself could be attributed to these overwhelming numbers, as well as to some players having played on the server for much longer. This guild is currently <Holocaust>. (The other obstacle would be twink PKs/griefers, but most mature players are not sufficiently demoralized by occasional unwinnable PvP to actually quit.)

Then again, I am not sure competition with <Holocaust> is impossible; and I will not be sure until I myself have fought their top-tier members several times. Has anyone ever fought 20v60? If the smaller force is better organized, disciplined, and committed to PvP, does it always turn out the same way or is it possible?

Anyway, back to your line of thought, <Fresh> and <The Curse> are, in fact, changing the server by successfully contesting the older guilds with characters who were created within the last six months, showing the community that new players can come to Red99, engage in successful mass PvP, and have an awesome time.

Imago 04-14-2015 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Videri (Post 1855813)
Good discussion. Here's my perspective. I started here on November 7, 2014 after playing in a progression guild on EQ Live called <Lost in Progression>.



Well, all five guilds you mentioned raid. However, only <Holocaust> and <Azrael> (+<Friends>?) have enough VP-keyed members to raid Veeshan's Peak, from which the top tier of loot comes (until Velious). <The Curse> and <Fresh> raid other targets/zones including the Plane of Fear, PoHate, PoSky, Vox, Nagafen, Ragefire, Ixiblat, Faydedar, Chardok, The Hole, and more.


As far as I know, most or all members of <Friends> have faction in Chardok, as well as possibly other zones (The Hole, I believe). They use this faction - along with their high level of gear and, I admit, skill - to disrupt, wipe, and kill other guilds in these zones. I'm sure someone will say "it's classic," but I'm sure it doesn't win them any friends; and it makes you wonder if they are doing anything that a new player would want to be part of.

And as to lower-level twink PKs - since the tiny-guild purge of early 2015, most of them are unguilded, though their mains could be in almost any major guild. I don't know of any way to prove this other then admission.


I had so many thoughts on this topic that I started my own thread. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=189125



I and many other players have a vision that a new player should be able to come to Red99 and eventually participate in PvE and PvP at the highest level his/her skills and schedule will permit.
The obstacle to this is a guild with which there can be no competition due to (1) overwhelming numbers and (2) a gear gap between top-tier members of each guild. The gear gap itself could be attributed to these overwhelming numbers, as well as to some players having played on the server for much longer. This guild is currently <Holocaust>. (The other obstacle would be twink PKs/griefers, but most mature players are not sufficiently demoralized by occasional unwinnable PvP to actually quit.)

Then again, I am not sure competition with <Holocaust> is impossible; and I will not be sure until I myself have fought their top-tier members several times. Has anyone ever fought 20v60? If the smaller force is better organized, disciplined, and committed to PvP, does it always turn out the same way or is it possible?

Anyway, back to your line of thought, <Fresh> and <The Curse> are, in fact, changing the server by successfully contesting the older guilds with characters who were created within the last six months, showing the community that new players can come to Red99, engage in successful mass PvP, and have an awesome time.

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bolo 04-14-2015 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Timelord (Post 1855695)
Zerg

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