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Ravager 12-31-2013 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Xadion (Post 1246958)
the war epic ALWAYS had the green scale cock block. If its still rare on a 1k population server with YEARS of kunark... You think it was 'easy to get' or cheap on a 2k population live server with less than a year of kunark?

rotation is dumb as shit folks...

the 'top guilds' do not think they should just be given all the mob, they think that within the rules they should be able to WORK and COMPETE to get as many as they can... Its everyone else that wants rotation or candy loot bags given to them that are the ones saying they are entitled to stuff...

most of the population just sits back and says 'well I got my epic on live and didn't super raid!' yes, after the changes to epics after velious... During Kunark and early vel they where rare and elite...well sans rouge lol

Green scale will be cheap to get when warriors don't have to pay TMO for it.

Nirgon 12-31-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Versus (Post 1247320)
I hope everyone recognizes the fact that this whole problem stems from no Velious. These mobs would be completely open if the top 3 guilds were busy in Velious.

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Ravager 12-31-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Xadion (Post 1246992)
no agreement was met because the 'lower tier' guilds are pulling a power play to create a communistic rotation, and that's not meant as a flame, its really a form of commune thought- that all the community is all entitled to an equal share of the wealth and those that do high end jobs and have high education and or experience get and should have the same as the low end workers and non experienced peoples.

the masses love it!

Pretty sure the decision was left up to the masses and not the elite. In a system where pixels are artificially generated (you're not doing work to pop a mob), why should anyone be more entitled to it than someone else?

Hitpoint 12-31-2013 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravager (Post 1247327)
Pretty sure the decision was left up to the masses and not the elite. In a system where pixels are artificially generated (you're not doing work to pop a mob), why should anyone be more entitled to it than someone else?

Because some people still put in much more effort. It's very, very simple.

Clark 12-31-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Durka (Post 1246880)
Thanks for your input butters. But we need qualified input - guilded invested individuals who have experience with these things.

What the hell are you talking about?

Nirgon 12-31-2013 01:14 PM

Let's take a poll with all American citizens of how taxes and welfare should be handled.

Ravager 12-31-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Alarti0001 (Post 1247288)
No its not.

Yes it is.

Ciroco 12-31-2013 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitpoint (Post 1247334)
Because some people still put in much more effort. It's very, very simple.

Everyone wants effort to be rewarded. The problem is that the level of effort required to field one raid mob has reached a level that (I assume) no one is comfortable with.

Ravager 12-31-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitpoint (Post 1247334)
Because some people still put in much more effort. It's very, very simple.

But putting in the effort is stupid. It's like installing a pump to a natural spring. It's not everyone's fault that 10% of the population make a shit ton of work just because they want more.

falkun 12-31-2013 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Versus (Post 1247320)
I hope everyone recognizes the fact that this whole problem stems from no Velious. These mobs would be completely open if the top 3 guilds were busy in Velious.

Then why are you advocating a proposal that does not scale into Velious? Do you want to have everyone raid suspended again when Velious drops while we figure out a new agreement? Or would you rather have the agreement hashed out now so when Velious drops the server can easily adapt it to the new content and raiding can continue unimpeded?

This deal is shortsighted.


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