Needs to be researched to get a conclusive opinion. I have heard that the original developer statements were wrong, and that FT did stack. I have also heard that flowing thought shouldn't stack with flowing thought of the same level.

For example, should a Flowing Thought I item stack with another Flowing Thought I item?

With a cap of Flowing Thought 15 being in place, was that an arbitrary number or was it based on: FT1+FT2+FT3+FT4+FT5 = FT15 ?

From the EQ Developer's Corner:
posted 01-08-2002 11:13 AM user search report post
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Bigmeeno wrote:
From todays patch message...


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- Flowing Thought effects will now stack
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with...
a) Clarity
b) PotG
c) other FT items
d) the all new uber.. err.. useless shaman mana potions
d) a and b
e) a, b and d
f) a, b, c and d
g) none of the above
h) other

Couldnt they have been just a little more specific?

Sorry, I guess that was a little less than descriptive.

How about this:

- Flowing Thought effects will now stack with other Flowing Thought effects.

Alan

in velious FT items didint stack . higheer FT item would be the one working.

howver u could stack up to 5 aura of battles worn items.

if u look carefully at aas per expansion u will see how they allowed u to break the caps.

later to avoid confusion they switched worn efects for FT atk hp rege to be displayed as numbers so u could calculate the max u have and wich aas u needed to raise the cap.

Main reason u have now fungy tunic now with regeneration xxx rubi with rege xxx and iskar bp with xxx.

more links .
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=8982
nother FT slot
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#May 23 2002 at 12:22 PMRating: Good
Kataliya
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I believe this information is inaccurate. Corrction below:

ALL Flowinng Thought effects will stack with one another, poeriod. There APPEARS to be a maximum of FT15, as shown by multiple logs posted to various public forums. There are additional effects (such as "Zephyr of Brell" and "Lunar Whispers") that add additional levels of mana regenration, and as of this writing, none of these effects have been proven to NOT stack.

HOWEVER, the issue is complicated by some logs floating around out there that seem indicate there is no FT cap, but this is hotly disputed. The cap *appears* to be FT15, but unfortunately untill VI gives us a difinitive statement regarding the issue, nothing is certain. /sigh


***EDIT***: Sadly, mana regeneration via worn items has been HARD CAPPED at 15 as of the patch most recent to this writing. A discussion and logs proving this can be found here: http://www.********.org/forums/showt...?threadid=1543

This, IMHO, sucks. =(

Edited, Tue Jun 11 20:30:04 2002
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final link to patch : http://everquest.allakhazam.com/hist...es-2002-1.html


** Spells **

- Necromancer Group spells should now be working, they were only
affecting the caster. This includes spells such as: Degeneration,
Succession of Shadows, Crippling Claudication, and Zavfeer's Theft of
Vitae. These spells have also had their duration increased. Mind Wrack
will be fixed soon.
- Shadowknight "Torrent" spells have also been fixed and have had their
duration increased as well
- Flowing Thought effects will now stack
- Meditating on a horse occurs only while not in combat
- Mark of Retribution should work as intended
- The Decession spell now requires you to be in the same group
- Levitation can no longer be used in The Deep
- Fixed a problem that was still allowing people to Cast Eye of Zomm in
Ssra Temple
- Fixed a problem that was still allowing people to cast Call of the
Hero in Ssra Temple
- NPCs that cannot be stunned will once again take damage from damaging
stun spells (this was actually patched earlier along with an emergency
patch)
- Critical heals and nukes now display damage numbers (this was
actually patched earlier along with an emergency patch)

Hope that helps nilbog .

:)

All very good points. With the list mostly complete, I guess the only thing to do now is it make sure they should all be in velious, like you are saying.

It will be very difficult to find proof for the FT items. Many of them were added in patches 30-90 days before luclin. The ring war was itemized sometime in october, but again need the proof.

What complicates things further is during this timeframe a lot of guilds stop posting kill and drop information for some reason.

Im pretty sure Triton was on a DKP system back then, if we can find a raid rewards listing from september to december 2001 there should be most of the info we need. Unfortunatly their site was not kept up like FoH.

Next; question: If an item wasnt put in ( or a mob not itemized ) in until 1 month before luclin, does it get added right away for p99. If a quest wasnt completed until 1 month before luclin, does it go in right away, with all rewards ( ring war, first completed on Povar in Sep of 2001 )

If a mob wasnt killed ( therfore we do not know if it was itemized at realease or not ) until 1 month before luclin should that mob drop the items ? I dont beleive AoW was killed until late october or early november right?

aow was itemized but original Boc didint have EB proc .

Was a decision reached in regards to FT stacking? FT1+FT2? etc?

That breastplate is Luclin era. It came into play when there was the GM event that turned all the karanas green because of the plagues that bertoxx sent. This event occurred luclin era. Conceivably its stats aren't much different that what will be dropping in velious, and probably wouldn't effect anything if such GM event were to happen here.