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Pomaikai 02-01-2012 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitchens (Post 541598)
Stores are commercial enterprises who's existence relies on drumming up additional business.

P1999 is not.

The analogy does not work.

Wait... This entire server's existence is because of drummed up business. Sure, most of the advertising has been word of mouth, but Red 1999 got some actual ads run. In order to maintain a viable economy and a fun gaming experience we NEED new players to keep coming to P1999 because you will always have some attrition of the existing playerbase, for whatever reason. How do you think those people learn about P1999? Because we, the existing players are drumming up business by telling our friends and old guildies from Live about the server! And in all seriousness, running this server costs Rogean money each and every month. From electricity, to bandwidth, to hardware, and of course tons of his own time and effort. So drumming up business that might lead to more donations to offset his own personal costs of running this server for our amusement? That sounds like a business to me. Maybe a non-profit business, but a business nonetheless.

Hitchens 02-01-2012 04:03 PM

No, the entire server's existence is because the people who own it choose to pay the bills. Just because you spend money on something does not make it a business, that's called a hobby.

Pomaikai 02-01-2012 04:11 PM

Dude, even as a hobby we need more players all the time. Seriously, you can't see that?

Rubexcube666 02-01-2012 04:14 PM

More players = more possible donators though. That would have an internal conflict with footing the bills. I typically donate a little here and there to games i play for free with good admins and help!

Like this community already!

Pomaikai 02-01-2012 04:14 PM

Ah, but we ARE competing for their gaming time. We are sort of competing with the other free servers out there, but mainly we are competing for what game they spend their time playing. Will it be WoW, Rift, LOTRO, EQ, SW:TOR, etc, or P1999? So yes, we're competing with every other MMORPG for players. It's a little different, but not a whole lot, and certainly not enough to keep basic sales promotions from working as intended.

Hitchens 02-01-2012 04:15 PM

I don't recall saying that more players won't benefit the server.

I'm saying that there's no reason to believe that a week long experience bonus will translate into a sustained larger player base. The experience bonus will have to end eventually, at which point experience levels return to normal. If a player is unsatisfied with the experience rate on P1999, a paltry week of an increased rate will mean very little.

If you can present a logical counter-argument to this, I'm all ears. But I don't really do appeals to emotion.

Rubexcube666 02-01-2012 04:16 PM

I like that the sever has bonuses for special days during the year. That should be enough of a hitch in and of itself.

Flunklesnarkin 02-01-2012 04:18 PM

Idk whats going on in this thread...

if exp bonus does nothing.. then don't freak out about it if they decide to do it for a weak..

I didn't see anywhere near as much heartache and grief when they did the holiday exp bonuses. (i actually can't recall any)

so if giving shafted mac players (and everybody else in p99) a short period of time for better exp would even help a few people come to the server... it might be a good thing.

if nobody from eqmac decides to join p99 on the other hand.. a short exp bonus isn't going to destroy game balance on the server.. its happened before and i didn't see people crying "the end is near~!"


on another note enough with metaphors just say what you mean.. metaphor just leave shit open for trolls.

Hitchens 02-01-2012 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin (Post 541654)
Idk whats going on in this thread...

if exp bonus does nothing.. then don't freak out about it if they decide to do it for a weak..

I didn't see anywhere near as much heartache and grief when they did the holiday exp bonuses. (i actually can't recall any)

so if giving shafted mac players (and everybody else in p99) a short period of time for better exp would even help a few people come to the server... it might be a good thing.

if nobody from eqmac decides to join p99 on the other hand.. a short exp bonus isn't going to destroy game balance on the server.. its happened before and i didn't see people crying "the end is near~!"


on another note enough with metaphors just say what you mean.. metaphor just leave shit open for trolls.

People are just exchanging ideas, I don't think anyone is under the impression that P1999 is a democracy. ;)

Pomaikai 02-01-2012 04:22 PM

Normally, I'd be agreeing with you here Hitchens. But we just happen to be right on the edge of a singularly unique event. The closing of an entire EQ server with no recourse for that servers population. Normally when SOE closes a server, they merge it with another server, preserving that population, their characters, their items, and all of their time and hard work. In this case though, that cannot happen. These people are screwed and homeless, AND they play EQ. In fact, they play an EQ that is closer to P1999 than any other Live server out there. These folks, baring the issues with getting the game to run on a different OS, are a perfect fit for P1999. Think of this as a Perfect Storm. We can either ride the wave and haul in a lot of people who I truly think would be very interested in what we have to offer, or we can just watch the majority of them go elsewhere with their gaming time. Personally, I've always been of the opinion that you strike when the iron is hot.

Think of it this way... Do you want to go salmon fishing anytime, or when the fish are spawning? Hint: You'll catch a lot more when they are spawning.


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