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Glenzig 09-25-2019 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Nexii (Post 2967951)
Hybrids aren't worth playing in classic. Even into Kunark/Velious they aren't worth it aside from having one in a raid for their buffs. And that's with the exp penalties removed. Sure I guess if you like the class/challenge go for it. But I'd rather be desired in groups in a social game and not be forced to grind it out slow and solo or be a charity invite.

Besides the fact that both Paladin and Shadowknight are vastly superior group tanks.

Nexii 09-25-2019 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenzig (Post 2967955)
Besides the fact that both Paladin and Shadowknight are vastly superior group tanks.

You don't really need a tank in a group though. Mage pets tank just as well as any melee in classic because the gear is so bad. Probably better in fact. It's just a dead slot

Barantor 09-25-2019 10:56 AM

See I have weird thoughts on this. I'm fine with how it is if the folks spending all this time making it really want it to be that way, but if they do change it then I think that the classes that get an xp boost (warriors, rogues, etc) should get a bit of a boost to compensate.

Part of the reason the xp penalty is there is because hybrids have a lot going for them ability/spell wise, so I'd hate to see warriors and rogues become more rare than they already are.

At that point though you are starting to change a lot of things way out of classic, so it's a weird situation about where you draw the line and I think it's going to be different for just about everyone.

Nexii 09-25-2019 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vizax_Xaziv (Post 2967594)
You're missing the point. I was pointing out that the min-maxers on Classic WOW significantly changed the way that the game was played vs a vanilla experience - and part of this change has caused many classes to be excluded in order to ensure maximal xp/hour gain.

People figured it out way before classic WOW came out. I played on Tholuxe in 2000 or so, early Kunark. By then there were next to no hybrids on a new server. No one was going to invest in a weak class. The ratio of warrior: pal, warrior: SK, warrior: ranger was about 20:1. I did find it curious that warrior was relatively popular.

The fix later on in POP era (maybe late Luclin era?) was a pretty good one, much higher exp bonuses for grouping. It killed solo and small group aside from farming but IMO that wasn't a bad thing.

Glenzig 09-25-2019 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Nexii (Post 2967958)
You don't really need a tank in a group though. Mage pets tank just as well as any melee in classic because the gear is so bad. Probably better in fact. It's just a dead slot

Are we talking low to mid level?
Also, if you're leaving tanks out of groups while leveling, have fun on raids.

bigjeff100 09-25-2019 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nexii (Post 2967951)
Hybrids aren't worth playing in classic. Even into Kunark/Velious they aren't worth it aside from having one in a raid for their buffs. And that's with the exp penalties removed. Sure I guess if you like the class/challenge go for it. But I'd rather be desired in groups in a social game and not be forced to grind it out slow and solo or be a charity invite.

Hybrids are a blast to play. "Even into Kunark/Velious they aren't worth playing except for buffs". That's terrible man.. They are a blast to play, and that is reason alone to play them..

Some people just love the enjoyment of leveling and adventuring a character and they are perfect for that. Some folks don't enjoy the level 60 life.. We all play EQ for different reasons.. Min/Max, Adventures, Friends, Nostalgia, Quests, Pixels, Lore..

But common- Saying they aren't worth it? That's a bit too much man..

Nexii 09-25-2019 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenzig (Post 2967963)
Are we talking low to mid level?
Also, if you're leaving tanks out of groups while leveling, have fun on raids.

Even Nagafen/Vox can be done with a small army of Mage/Necro pets. If your pet dies you just resummon. 10s recast and you can make several on a full mana bar. I don't see any content in classic that would require a tank class.

Deathrydar 09-25-2019 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nexii (Post 2967965)
Even Nagafen/Vox can be done with a small army of Mage/Necro pets. If your pet dies you just resummon. 10s recast and you can make several on a full mana bar. I don't see any content in classic that would require a tank class.

Am I back in the Wow Classic forums?

bigjeff100 09-25-2019 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nexii (Post 2967965)
Even Nagafen/Vox can be done with a small army of Mage/Necro pets. If your pet dies you just resummon. 10s recast and you can make several on a full mana bar. I don't see any content in classic that would require a tank class.

This is terrible man.. This is how the new server is gonna be? Just a buncha people who played way to much and now prefer full groups of 2 classes, and only 2 classes cause that's all that is required during classic?? That's really sad..

Glenzig 09-25-2019 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjeff100 (Post 2967973)
This is terrible man.. This is how the new server is gonna be? Just a buncha people who played way to much and now prefer full groups of 2 classes, and only 2 classes cause that's all that is required during classic?? That's really sad..

There will definitely be people like that. I think they will be the minority though. At least, I really hope they will.


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