Don't try to understand their rational.

A few months ago Chest wrote a post outlining what was the current state of affairs in the raid scene on P99. And his post was spot on. It was before the FAT alliance; when Taken/Asgard/BDA where all predominately going for VP and Rampage was left alone to own all of NToV while Forsaken was struggling to get any raid mobs. At this point you didn't see any guild with ruffled jimmies.

But now, since the tides turned and guilds realigned, you see BDA, who has been left out due to the manner of which they handle themselves, complain of unfairness and undermine the server with ludicrous posts in RnF.

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thin...l&tid=56131618

Thanks. My post was to remind them that even though their immersion level is through the roof. There are more important things to worry about.

Indeed, our stance changed when the few ring war attempts used to gather data turned into many ring war attempts to spawn Dains. An extra Dain spawn a month isn't game breaking, and probably closer to classic. Spawning three of them a week to feed your pixel sickness is another matter.

So, we should just stop trying? Limit our possible progression? Nothing is impossible.

I think the standard should be whatever BDA can kill is as far along as the server raid scene is aloud to progess. Delete all NToV loot except for Ikitar.

I mean classically there were patches going on left and right. Would we see three a week? Probably not. But every time the server came down for emergency maintenance there was another server repop full of mobs. Two a week was fairly common.

I think there has only been 3 extra dains in total. This is an attempt to complete a ring war, not to explicitly spawn dains

Show me the post where BDA says it's unfair. BDA and Omni are just calling an exploit an exploit and neither guild wants to exploit a bug.

But, since the mods don't seem to care, go on with the rhetoric.

If it's not to exploit Dains would the guilds attempting ring wars agree not to kill Dains until the bug is patched?