Originally Posted by Veltira (Post 1856531)

Which is why you made this thread, in a public place. I tried to find a middle ground with you here, i even offered you the item back. As for people hurting your feelings in /shout how do i have any control over that? You've done a great job of both screwing me over and making a bad reputation for yourself with this. If you truly wanted clarification you would have come to the forums and used the petition there; instead you have some personal problem with me. What sucks the most is that you truly think you are right and that i'm some bitch who deserved banning. Instead you helped drive a good player from your ranks over a 800pp earring. Sad man.

Originally Posted by Rednaros (Post 1856550)

So let me just make sure im understanding this...i dont want to argue with false information
Veltira was at the camp before you, but you engaged the mob first despite not being the person holding the camp, didnt get the kill, and so you petitioned him and got him banned for killing a mob he was camping?
Edit: ive gone back in the thread and you contradict yourself many times on your view on who was there first...which is it?

Originally Posted by Samaritan (Post 1856567)

Farming 1Kpp items = super serious petitionquest business.

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Originally Posted by kildone (Post 1856557)

Hey you brought it public first, then Sirken posted my name. Don't blame me for airing your dirty laundry, it was already out there. I was just adding my side of the story.

Nobody hurt my feelings in shout, I never said that. I just said that a guildmate of yours added one more piece of evidence that talking to members of your guild does not solve problems.

Colgate is the only guy I ever had a civilized conversation with to date. Just because of that I did not feel it would benefit me to go to your guild leadership before I knew what the rules are. Maybe I would have afterwards, but to day I am only making assumptions, the staff never answered me directly. They only implied saying "Sorry, this has been taken care of"

Don't forget, that during a previous spawn, you did not respect anyone else who had that camp first when you showed up and tried to take the kill. There were two people other than me there.

Just because you happened to be first that one occasion does not mean squat in this.

Don't try to make me feel sorry for what the GMs did, based on your actions. Don't try to tell me that I should show up first and beg you not to take my camp. Or ask you afterwards for charity.

Originally Posted by Veltira (Post 1856578)

Let's take this line by line. You are judging me based on what someone from my guild (the largest and bestest guild) said to you when I wasn't even online. This is ridiculous. Colgate is one of two reasons I came to Holo, it seems that you share a mutual admiration for his skills. You state that you've had conversations with him that are positive. So for you to say that you have an open line to communicate with Holo leadership but didn't use it feeling that you would get an unfair response is circular logic. Colgate is a lot of things: Best duelist on the server, two time BotB champ, etc. One thing he's not is unreasonable; you chose to go to a petition because you were upset. End of story. Now as for the previous spawn that i stole from you, this never happened. My only interaction with you prior to this incident was selling you a fishbone earring days ago and I was nothing but courteous.

I'm done arguing with you man, i've apologized for the misunderstanding, i've offered you the item back; what more could i possibly do to remedy this situation. You took your feelings out on someone unjustly and now you are reaping the consequences because you came to the red forums; a place where bullshit is sniffed out from moment one.

Originally Posted by kildone (Post 1855952)

I was going to keep my mouth shut because I was not sure if I could say anything, but Sirken said I could post so here it is. Below I will show my petition but first let me explain.

I spent 4.5 hours one day getting Hadden timer. I spent the next few days bound at his spawn and tried to get lucky. Most times I made sure to show up first and people would show up and kill him. One guy showed up and taunted me about my guild and shouted that he didn't care who got the kill as long as Curse %$@!# did not.

Because of level restrictions PvP for the camp is not an option. In my mind, a higher level should be able to show up, kill me and take the mob. Fine. I personally am against PnP and level restrictions, as I have posted here multiple times, but if there are rules everyone should follow them. So I read the PnP policy, both for Red and Blue and questioned the GM's through a petition on how this is supposed to work.

BTW Velzira you complain that in this one case, you were the first one there. I had bought the FB earring from you because after multiple days of frustration I gave up. The next day I decided to try again. I was there first and you showed up, said Hi Ridez =D and tried to take the kill even though I was there first. There was also two others there before you. Some druid, who shall remain nameless, took it first, but don't tell me you didn't try to take it as well.

After reading the rules which state nothing about holding a camp on long timer mobs with no PH, and knowing that showing up first meant nothing to people here, I decided to start gating in right before the timer. I got first engage which also seemed to mean nothing to people here. So I petitioned to ask for rules clarification, not to get you banned or punished or to get the FB earring which I feel I deserved based on the rules.

Originally Posted by Rednaros (Post 1856587)

The simple fact that Veltira was banned because you got the FTE on a mob camped by 3+ people is ridiculous
is this red or blue?