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Burgerking 10-10-2014 12:10 PM

Personally I'd say Necro/Shaman between slow and torpor + all the stat buffs for pet, and necro's ability to mez, pull, snare/fear kite, or twitch mana, these two can prolly duo the best selling drops in game.

Janifer 10-10-2014 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by deadlycupcakez (Post 1640922)
I finally made my way back to p99 - lemme know how to reach you in game

Send me a PM here, or send an in-game /tell to Janifer(won't be for another 8 or so hours, though).

We have three mages so far, and just trying to get at least one focus item per player!

~Also, we haven't started yet(still level 1) - so, it's not too late if you're interested!

Kergan 10-10-2014 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Burgerking (Post 1641983)
Personally I'd say Necro/Shaman between slow and torpor + all the stat buffs for pet, and necro's ability to mez, pull, snare/fear kite, or twitch mana, these two can prolly duo the best selling drops in game.

There is a difference between "can" and "best" though.

Burgerking 10-10-2014 12:49 PM

Shaman and enchanter is theory crafted combo that looks great on paper but doesn't work out going for high ticket items in sebs and HS.

Your forced to rely on charming vs summoning mobs, do you have any idea how fast this can go south before you can recover, you literally have 0% margin for error. One charm break your dead. You cannot use the shaman pet to tank, and it's a pain in the ass to have the shaman tank. If the enc pet dies there is no heals in the world that are gonna keep the enc up, and you cant afford to heal the enc when the shaman is main tanking and the enc is gonna need a charmed pet for dps.

IF YOU HASTE THAT CHARMED PET YOUR ARE LITERALLY GUARANTEEING THE ENCHANTERS DEATH ON CHARM BREAK.

Much safer letting a fully shaman buffed 3.5k+ hp emissary of thule pet tank with avatar on a slowed mob.

And when something does go wrong the very first time it's over, your done for the nite because your bodies are now buried dead in a dungeon that will take you forever to get back down to naked, if you can even pull that off.

Meanwhile the necro can feign death when something goes wrong and rez the shaman back and start over like nothing even happened.

But enc/shaman, mage/cleric are much better for clearing trash or getting to a mob quicker, but nasty as hell mobs that summon aren't gonna be possible for these two combos.

baalzy 10-10-2014 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Burgerking (Post 1642016)
Shaman and enchanter is theory crafted combo that looks great on paper but doesn't work out going for high ticket items in sebs and HS.

Your forced to rely on charming vs summoning mobs, do you have any idea how fast this can go south before you can recover, you literally have 0% margin for error. One charm break your dead. You cannot use the shaman pet to tank, and it's a pain in the ass to have the shaman tank. If the enc pet dies there is no heals in the world that are gonna keep the enc up, and you cant afford to heal the enc when the shaman is main tanking and the enc is gonna need a charmed pet for dps.

IF YOU HASTE THAT CHARMED PET YOUR ARE LITERALLY GUARANTEEING THE ENCHANTERS DEATH ON CHARM BREAK.

Much safer letting a fully shaman buffed 3.5k+ hp emissary of thule pet tank with avatar on a slowed mob.

And when something does go wrong the very first time it's over, your done for the nite because your bodies are now buried dead in a dungeon that will take you forever to get back down to naked, if you can even pull that off.

Meanwhile the necro can feign death when something goes wrong and rez the shaman back and start over like nothing even happened.

But enc/shaman, mage/cleric are much better for clearing trash or getting to a mob quicker, but nasty as hell mobs that summon aren't gonna be possible for these two combos.

Go check out the blue solo artist challenge thread. Enchanters can successfully solo so much of this stuff. Bout the only thing that could get dicy is trying to duo fungus king in Seb.

Necro/Sham is going to be powerful and arguably would be a much simpler leveling route (since optimal speed for an enchanter requires charming, while necro/shaman can have great speed without charming) but it is not going to touch an enchanter+shaman. Enchanter is hands down the most OP class in the game for PvE content in this era and a shaman is going to give a huge boost to that ability with its buffs/debuffs.

I love necro, it's a fun and veristile class (i've got 3 of them afterall..), but I'm not going to pretend having undead only charm/lull and powerful DoTs is going to overcome the benefits of unrestricted charm/lull with AOE mez/stuns when sniping high value nameds.

Kergan 10-10-2014 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Burgerking (Post 1642016)
Shaman and enchanter is theory crafted combo that looks great on paper but doesn't work out going for high ticket items in sebs and HS.

Your forced to rely on charming vs summoning mobs, do you have any idea how fast this can go south before you can recover, you literally have 0% margin for error. One charm break your dead. You cannot use the shaman pet to tank, and it's a pain in the ass to have the shaman tank. If the enc pet dies there is no heals in the world that are gonna keep the enc up, and you cant afford to heal the enc when the shaman is main tanking and the enc is gonna need a charmed pet for dps.

IF YOU HASTE THAT CHARMED PET YOUR ARE LITERALLY GUARANTEEING THE ENCHANTERS DEATH ON CHARM BREAK.

Much safer letting a fully shaman buffed 3.5k+ hp emissary of thule pet tank with avatar on a slowed mob.

And when something does go wrong the very first time it's over, your done for the nite because your bodies are now buried dead in a dungeon that will take you forever to get back down to naked, if you can even pull that off.

Meanwhile the necro can feign death when something goes wrong and rez the shaman back and start over like nothing even happened.

But enc/shaman, mage/cleric are much better for clearing trash or getting to a mob quicker, but nasty as hell mobs that summon aren't gonna be possible for these two combos.

I can't think of an example of a mob a necro/shm duo can do that a solo shaman can't. Maybe an unslowable mob that can be feared in an outdoor area? I dunno.

If slow lands, it's over. You can jbb/epic that shit down and torpor yourself at around 30% life and never die. Enchanter is the only class that can reliably trivialize a multiple mob encounter (all while doing the highest solo dps of any class with a charm pet) and therefor the only class that adds anything to the shaman aside from speed/efficiency.

Burgerking 10-10-2014 01:30 PM

Then what happens when u die in Sebs? lol nights over right. I often see people talk about how great things can go if nothing ever goes wrong, yet I'm constantly logging on my necro to get coffins for the people who thought things wouldn't go wrong and are now screwed.

Love to see fraps of that enc/shaman combo steadily farming items without multiple CR runs and asks for help retrieving bodies from dungeons, not someone elses fraps from someone who played these classes for years on live. Personal fraps from someone claiming it's so easy.

Super Hater 10-10-2014 01:37 PM

Nothing can ever beat 2 Hateraids.

Eslade 10-10-2014 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Hater (Post 1642061)
Nothing can ever beat 2 Hateraids.

Except one of these
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Deathwed 10-10-2014 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Burgerking (Post 1642051)
Then what happens when u die in Sebs? lol nights over right. I often see people talk about how great things can go if nothing ever goes wrong, yet I'm constantly logging on my necro to get coffins for the people who thought things wouldn't go wrong and are now screwed.

Love to see fraps of that enc/shaman combo steadily farming items without multiple CR runs and asks for help retrieving bodies from dungeons, not someone elses fraps from someone who played these classes for years on live. Personal fraps from someone claiming it's so easy.

what ? wyclef or Jezebel and my shaman could solo just about any mob in seb for hours... Then on top of that Brainz ( ranger ) and my shaman farm about 20 fungi tunics...

You can ask anyone in Azrael about THE GREAT Troll Shaman Sealer


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