Anyone else thinks Bill O'Riley is trolling the p99 forums?

God forbid someone makes a thread about something that causes debate other than 2 guilds in a game causing drama or poopsocking.

You are so dumb that it's readily apparent the simple question I am presenting you boggles your frail closed mind.

Don't tell me about a specific religion or religions' books.

Why does belief in a God or Gods have to be mutually exclusive with science in any way? (I even got more specific for you this time.)

Religions A, B, and C are irrelevant. Don't start quoting their bullshit in response. I want an answer from you.

They are exclusive because science has contradicted almost everything that people have said God is responsible for (evolution, how the universe came to be, homosexuality, morality, etc).

You can't have your cake and eat it too, sir. How about you explain why you think the two are even remotely compatible?

Ok, Harrison. Let's step away from the mudslinging and name calling. You seem to champion the believer side of the discussion here so,
I have an honest, straightforward question to ask, one I've never been able to get a satisfactory answer to:

According to Christian doctrine (with much paraphrasing) 2000-odd years ago, God looked upon the world and saw that the race of man needed to pull their collective heads out of their asses and get right. So he sends a prophet to spread the word. It begins with the Virgin birth of Jesus. Jesus, according to the Bible, performs many miraculous, unexplainable feats and multitudes of people see the light, and follow these teachings. In a covanent with God, Jesus dies, and thus took one for the 'team' absolving us of all the bad things people did to each other.

So here's my question: It's pretty apparent to me that we've strayed back onto that road we were on Pre-Jesus. If God loves me, unconditionally, and I can't be to blame for being the imperfect heathen I am,
Why doesn't God do it again? Send another Jesus. Not the prophesized Jesus to collect the flock of believers, Send him to re-prove that God exists and loves us all. Feed the crowd at the superbowl with just the bread in his pocket, Walk into a cancer ward and eradicate the disease. Show me God is still interested. A two century old book recounting the stuff that went down (sometimes 3rd hand, and decades after it happened) written by MEN isn't selling the promise anymore.


What does your unshakable faith say about the fact that a sizeable portion of the Bible relates direct accounts of interaction with 'The Almighty' and his angels. Everything from Abraham being told by God himself to kill Issac, to Moses receiving the Ten Commandments written DIRECTLY by God's finger. Theres a butt-load of divine interaction right up until Jesus and his death. And then it stops. Cold Turkey.


Why? Why no more?
The standard answer I get is 'Faith'. The believers' catch-all. You gotta just believe that it happened. Why do I just have to believe? This is met with: The believers go to Heaven.
Heaven isn't actual real estate. There isn't a Fire Code that limits occupancy. Why can't everyone go?
If God really loves me, unconditionally, more than I can imagine, why doesn't he:
A) forgive my ignorance and take me anyway?
or better yet
B) PROVE HE EXISTS and let me fall to my knees in abject humble apology for doubting?

Give me something other than that sunday-school 'faith' rhetoric that I've heard for 20 years.

Science and Religion hold different facts to be true. Therefore they are at odds. Dogma (specifically religious dogma) has always been an established obstacle of science.

"If the religious worldview is correct then science is susceptible to supernatural modification and rendered absurd, or scientific worldview is correct and most people are profoundly confused about the nature of reality, confounded by irrational hopes and fears, and tending to waste precious time and attention with often tragic results. "
-Sam Harris

I am not Christian in any way, shape, or form. I can't answer these questions for you. I don't believe any of that, and primarily for the same reasons most atheists don't.

I don't put faith into the words of man. My experiences lead me to believe that man is full of shit and out for himself more often than not. I won't put stock into words written by man now, then, or in the future, at face value concerning metaphysics.

The massive hump you guys can't seem to get over is that Christianity isn't the only belief out there. You discount all ideas concerning a God simply because you think the Bible is bullshit. (A book written by men, mind you.)