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Simplistik 06-05-2010 05:42 PM

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Whether it was classic bug or not, it was a bug, lore means lore, not lore and as many as you can stuff your corpses with. Things are made lore precisely to prevent this kind of behaviour.
my thought's exactly..

girth 06-05-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicka (Post 72815)
Whether it was classic bug or not, it was a bug, lore means lore, not lore and as many as you can stuff your corpses with. Things are made lore precisely to prevent this kind of behaviour.

QFT - could not say it better and I tried LOL

Leokaiser 06-05-2010 08:00 PM

I agree with the sentaments shared by the OP. Once you have one Lore item, you shouldn't be able to loot another by being lame. However, as said, this is 'classic'; but on the flip side, as far as I read the camp rules, if people are dying then they either aren't retain a presence at that camp (could be avioded by binding there) or they aren't able to hold the camp (because they are dying, heh).

It is a bit of a dick move to take a camp from someone because they died, but if they are dying intentionally in order to hog the camp on Lore items then the rules are already being twisted.

Vonblund 06-05-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicka (Post 72815)
Whether it was classic bug or not, it was a bug, lore means lore, not lore and as many as you can stuff your corpses with. Things are made lore precisely to prevent this kind of behaviour.

This pretty much sums it up.

Whoever argues with that will only argue because they are currently exploiting that bug for their personal profit, to the detriment of the rest of the community.

km2783 06-08-2010 12:18 PM

If others weren't clamoring for the camp I'd have no problem storing items on corpses, but if people WERE (and they are in the case of Frenzy, for example) wanting the camp I'm just not the type of person to do this sort of thing to others.

It's just such a douche move and lame exploit.

Yoite 06-08-2010 05:56 PM

well, i have mixed feelings about this.

I will say its not very cool to hog they camp like that, no one "needs" more than one FBSS, so those that are doing it are doing it to sell for cash. Why not just farm guards? The thing is this is a critical item for melee dps. From what im seeing pretty much the only way to get one right now is to buy it from the farmers? Thats poop. I'm glad i got mine a long time ago.

Yoite 06-08-2010 06:00 PM

the mixed feeling being this should be left in, as i might want to hoard lore items at some point.

but i dont think its cool to hoard a camp that some many people want and need. Doesnt bother me on camps that no one is trying to get into to, but frenzy? that's not cool.

btw Humwawa is def not a douche bag, hes nice and very cool. But i dont approve of hoarding this particular camp, if it was any other camp it probably wouldnt make such a stink

girth 06-08-2010 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoite (Post 74505)
the mixed feeling being this should be left in, as i might want to hoard lore items at some point.

but i dont think its cool to hoard a camp that some many people want and need. Doesnt bother me on camps that no one is trying to get into to, but frenzy? that's not cool.

btw Humwawa is def not a douche bag, hes nice and very cool. But i dont approve of hoarding this particular camp, if it was any other camp it probably wouldnt make such a stink

Agree. Humwawa is a cool guy. Just think this should be labeled an exploit and done away with for the good of the server. We have other stuff that was changed from classic for the same reason.

nicemace 06-08-2010 08:17 PM

if they dont use corpses, they just use lvl 1 alts, at least thats what i did back in 1999, hellooo 13 FBSS's in a week... its really not hard to get an alt down there with a bit of prep work.

but as its been said, someone soloing is no diff to a group camping it.. it still would be a popular / perma camped area (kinda like royals) if there werent a bunch of people soloing.. so yeah.

Bruman 06-09-2010 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nicemace (Post 74603)
but as its been said, someone soloing is no diff to a group camping it.. it still would be a popular / perma camped area (kinda like royals) if there werent a bunch of people soloing.. so yeah.

When the only resort to getting this item is to roll another class capable of farming gear, it makes the class disparity in the game even more apparent, but that's "classic" and all, so...

But the real problem is that it's putting the greed of 1 person over the benefit to 6 people. Lower Guk is a great exp zone, and is typically way over camped because the farmers take up half the zone. Once again "but that's classic" I guess, but still doesn't make it not a jerk thing to do.

I remember actually being able to get in a exp group there on live "back in the day", before any expansions. That's impossible here (except for maybe like what...3 am on Monday night or something?)


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