nirgon posted b4 pictures from VP raids dragons with multiple weapons that were clawing not crushing/slashing etc.

This is how it works on EQMac, you cannot Invis pull with Direct Aggro:

After further testing on the MAC server Invis pulling does in fact work there.

However, it requires a VERY unique set of circumstances. It has to do primarily with DIRECT aggro and ASSIST aggro, the two are separate mechanics. Any mob that you have DIRECT aggro on can pass its hate list onto any other mob it passes of the same faction regardless if you are Invisible or not. Any mob that is ASSISTING the mob you have DIRECT aggro on CANNOT pass its hate list to anything else if you are Invisible.

Example:

Lets say you have two guards right next to each other in Freeport
They are in assist radius of each other
Root one of the guards (This is Direct aggro)
Immediately Invis yourself
The other guard will assist and come chasing after you (This is Assist aggro)
You can now take the guard that is chasing you (with assist aggro) anywhere in the zone and it cannot pass its hate list to any other mob while you are Invisible
If that guard catches you or comes into its predetermined aggro radius of you direct aggro now applies and it can pass his hate list to anything else.

Unfortunately right now I think this should probably be the #1 Priority to fix ;/

If Velious is released with the current resist system it is just going to be way too easy.

You will end up with the same end game raid scene as we have in Kunark -- Players parking on spawn points with trivial bosses.

I don't play on the server nor deal with this part of the code. Can you explain what is different about it in comparison to p99?

can you fix song of highsun being unresistable and mage earth pet root/mage epic pet stun being nearly unresistable on the pvp server? these are insanely not classic and break pvp in a really horrible way

On P99 there is no differentiation between Direct Aggro and Assist Aggro.

If there are three NPCs standing next to each other and you attempt to pull them they will all aggro -- Each NPC will add the player to their hate list.

Any of them can be single pulled if Invisibility is cast on the Player. The aggroed mob cannot pass its hate list to any of the surrounding NPCs.

On the EQMac server there seems to be two lists (similar to Rampage, Direct and Assist).

If there are three NPCs standing next to each other and you attempt to pull them while Invisible they will all aggro -- But only the one you have casted on will have Direct aggro and can pass the Hate list to other surrounding NPCs. The other two NPCs cannot pass aggro onto other mobs they come into contact with.

If the NPC you have casted on stays stationary (With root or mez), no other additional NPCs will aggro no matter what the other two mobs come into contact with (they cannot pass the Hate list because they have only assisted the original NPC that is still stationary).

Once the NPC that you attempted to pull becomes unrooted/unmezzed and passes by other mobs it can pass it's aggro freely to anything it comes into contact with regardless if you are Invisible or not.

Being Invisible should should prevent other mobs assisting ONLY if you have assist aggro. If you have direct aggro the NPC can pass the assist list to anything.

I am pretty sure that removing Sirran will do more to make Sky non-trivial than any reasonable adjustment to the Bee Queen and the Eye. I would think all you have to do is a) remove all immunities from the trash mobs b) change the Bee Queen's cooldown to 1.7 seconds or so and give her two attacks instead of 4 c) change the Eye of Veeshan's max hit to something small (whatever was in Heartbrand's logs) and of course d) make Sirran immune.

I don't want to be an ass, but I would love to see more of this. I have had big personal projects before, so I know what it's like. I'm fine with some things simply being too much work in the near future.

Super happy to hear this. Invis pulling just makes everything so, so, so much easier. No one would be soloing Tolapumj or trioing the Royals without invis pulls. In fact I may be forced to roll a monk :D

Are you sure that invis has any effect at all on eqmac? Maybe mobs that are only assisting cannot spread their hate list at all?

Currently you can click up through the portals while the eye is active if you have a key saved. So for example a monk can click the stalking probe, FD, use keys to click up 4->5->6, then stand up and have the eye aggro the bees, thus pulling them down to 4 pretty easily. If the mob is not KoS (like the Eye), the same trick basically works except I believe you have a shaman duel the monk and send his pet after it, and then have it attack the Eye.

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Wondered about this too but I never tested it.

Don't think it even matters if you are invisible or not.

It's kind of a moot point though, you would not be able to run by other NPCs if you weren't invisible -- You would just draw Direct aggro from them.

Sirran was used for a day to get the world first overseer of air kill. We had the first 60 enchanter worldwide in legacy of steel.

It was fixed within 24 hours.