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DeathsSilkyMist 09-08-2022 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripqozko (Post 3502511)
Let's nerf DA ring, DA ear and Flux staff. Make them 5 sec cast time see if it's just as easy to kite. Screw taking them back, add more.

This would just further hurt small guilds. Any guild that can field 100+ people for a raid can crawl ToV to any raid target. We did that before we found new strategies to speed up the process.

The smaller guilds generally can't do that, so they are basically out of luck.

Hint: The only guilds that can field those numbers consistently are Vanquish and Riot.

I am not sure why people want to hurt smaller guilds because they want to hurt bigger guilds. It's counter productive, and the big guilds will still be able to kill all of the raid content.

Allishia 09-08-2022 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3502512)
This would just further hurt small guilds. Any guild that can field 100+ people for a raid can crawl ToV to any raid target. We did that before we found new strategies to speed up the process.

The smaller guilds generally can't do that, so they are basically out of luck.

Hint: The only guilds that can field those numbers consistently are Vanquish and Riot.

I am not sure why people want to hurt smaller guilds because they want to hurt bigger guilds. It's counter productive, and the big guilds will still be able to kill all of the raid content.

Ya, they aren't too smart...or really just don't raid so they have no clue on current meta lol :p

Sancta 09-08-2022 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mycoolrausch (Post 3502501)
it takes non classic code changes and arbitrary raid rules to give wizards something to do, i know

Why even hang around on a forum for a game you don't play, I don't get it

mycoolrausch 09-08-2022 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sancta (Post 3502519)
Why even hang around on a forum for a game you don't play, I don't get it

why apologize for a broken shitty class just because after 10 years of emulating people have finally carved out a niche for them to actually contribute something to a raid?

i have a wizard, i love my wizard, i love my wizard because it is useless and it's fun and a challenge to figure out ways to get value out of them. that's the charm of classic eq, it's interesting and heterogeneous. It's also fun on the opposite spectrum, to play a broken overpowered class that steamrolls the content, ie velious monks. Variety. But it doesn't mean I'm going to pretend the class is well balanced or well designed, because it is not.

Wizards end velious with an "I participated" ribbon. They become a real class in luclin when they receive about 5 billion buffs.

Allishia 09-08-2022 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mycoolrausch (Post 3502524)
why apologize for a broken shitty class just because after 10 years of emulating people have finally carved out a niche for them to actually contribute something to a raid?

i have a wizard, i love my wizard, i love my wizard because it is useless and it's fun and a challenge to figure out ways to get value out of them. that's the charm of classic eq, it's interesting and heterogeneous. It's also fun on the opposite spectrum, to play a broken overpowered class that steamrolls the content, ie velious monks. Variety. But it doesn't mean I'm going to pretend the class is well balanced or well designed, because it is not.

Wizards end velious with an "I participated" ribbon. They become a real class in luclin when they receive about 5 billion buffs.

Ya wizard in luclin is crazy good with crit nukes and mana burn. Even the familiar is awesome/nod

Oh and the horse to sit and med woot. If only luclin graphics weren't ugly :)

Ripqozko 09-08-2022 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3502512)
This would just further hurt small guilds. Any guild that can field 100+ people for a raid can crawl ToV to any raid target. We did that before we found new strategies to speed up the process.

The smaller guilds generally can't do that, so they are basically out of luck.

Hint: The only guilds that can field those numbers consistently are Vanquish and Riot.

I am not sure why people want to hurt smaller guilds because they want to hurt bigger guilds. It's counter productive, and the big guilds will still be able to kill all of the raid content.

You do 0 crawling, you kite it all, small guilds are dead and would still be dead. It'd make you clear some trash tho.

Ripqozko 09-08-2022 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Allishia (Post 3502515)
Ya, they aren't too smart...or really just don't raid so they have no clue on current meta lol :p

I have plenty of clue how it goes. Consider not getting drunk and guild removing again.

DeathsSilkyMist 09-08-2022 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripqozko (Post 3502528)
You do 0 crawling, you kite it all, small guilds are dead and would still be dead. It'd make you clear some trash tho.

We used to crawl when rooted dragons was a new thing. It's very doable, just slower.

Smaller guilds weren't dead before the clickie nerfs and rooted dragons.

Sorry you just want to hurt the small guilds while not hurting the bigger guilds.

Toxigen 09-08-2022 02:35 PM

oh boy here we go 200 pages inc

Ripqozko 09-08-2022 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3502531)
We used to crawl when rooted dragons was a new thing. It's very doable, just slower.

Smaller guilds weren't dead before the clickie nerfs and rooted dragons.

Sorry you just want to hurt the small guilds while not hurting the bigger guilds.

We used to, that means you don't hope that helps


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