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Algustus 09-28-2021 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Seducio (Post 3368734)
The devs most valuable asset is their time.

Talk all you want about unknowns and fixed costs indicating you never ran a business or a server before. Devs figured that out long ago.

Their time is what matters most

Yes it is. I would be really surprised if the developers were not helping to pay for the server costs as well. The whiney people probably gave up their cash to pay for election audits rather than donations to the server fund.

TomisFeline 09-29-2021 03:16 AM

lol

Tunabros 09-29-2021 03:19 AM

I doubt anyone in this thread has ever donated a single penny to P99

Balimon 09-29-2021 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tunabros (Post 3368859)
I doubt anyone in this thread has ever donated a single penny to P99

That's because your anger blinds your thinking.

I donate every year and Im sure others have too.

Toxigen 09-29-2021 09:40 AM

tfw you realize blues been the best option all along

Tunabros 09-29-2021 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Balimon (Post 3368879)
That's because your anger blinds your thinking.

I donate every year and Im sure others have too.

doubt :D

Seducio 09-29-2021 01:49 PM

P99 is not for profit, but its business model could be adapted to a for profit one if it were legal for devs to do so. It isn't.

Server mimics a F2P model without Pay to Win. Donations are made by whales.

In most F2P games there a not many whales compared with players who don't pay much. The amount of whales in a given game are in the 1 in 50 player to 1 in 200 player range.

All it takes is a few whales to donate to make the numbers pencil out for a significant higher population within a given server.

With the tens of thousands of players that have played on p99 since launch Devs have brought in enough whales over the last dozen years to pay for all of their current plans.

Do the math

Ooloo 09-29-2021 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Seducio (Post 3368993)
Do the math

You can't do the math without the relevant variables. We don't know what the server costs are, and we also don't know how much they are *currently* making in donations.

Splitting the server population yet again by opening a new green and leaving the current green and blue as they are might very well cause donations to drop, because the overall enjoyment goes down for all players (generally) as population drops. It's why nobody plays on the UO second age server I'm still on. People see there are only 25 players online and they go "meh" and don't log in, much less donate.

Seducio 09-29-2021 02:48 PM

You are being silly. The math has already been done. We exist.

Castle2.0 09-29-2021 03:18 PM

I donated my time and effort to make Norrath great again. Much was accomplished, little was appreciated by the Devs. But aren't we all still waiting for Green 2.0 to drop to take things to the next level?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoUV7Q1C1SU


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