I will agree that higher levels it loses its effectiveness but it has saved my ass as well as my friends' asses many times. It is "situational" and "situations" are what make EQ awesome. I mostly play in oddball groups so its gotten some great mileage. A lifetime of free HP for 500pp is not bad at all.

Also consider that 45-50 is a long road and most people don't get past there so looking at it from a "I will never get past level 52" standpoint its pretty damn good lol

I always enjoy the Tuljin essays :D

Anyway, Pharmakos, Warriors are in no way 'gimp'. With good gear and competent team mates, Warriors are simply the best, whether its raiding, going for tough targets with low numbers, or just XP grouping. They bring the most HP, the most AC, the most damage, and above all Defensive Discipline. The problem prospective Warriors face is creating those situations: putting in the time to get the gear, and making friends with competent players who can make you look good. There is a reason Warrior is considered something of a raid leader class.

The problem is when you join your average XP group full of people who are somehow bad despite playing this game for hundreds of hours in the same expansion, and the Monk pulls 5 mobs while the Enchanter is clueless and the Cleric is ninja AFK, there is nothing you can do.

I don't think Warriors are boring, either. You have quite a few clickies to manage, you have to manage push while staying in range of the clerics, and you can't really AFK like a Wizard. A good warrior is almost as important as a good monk for successfully 1-grouping the Chardok Royals.

"warriors aren't gimpy as long as they have a lot of skilled people helping them out."

sounds gimpy to me.

"Warriors are great so long as they don't have a bunch of baddies weighing them down" is more accurate, and not gimpy at all.

Nah, gimpy is a fully buffed half-elf paladin being 1-rounded by a sebilite juggernaut.

if you have no intentions of raiding, paladin or SK is the way to go

they can tank everything in the game currently aside from just overseer of air, hand of veeshan, bee boss

they won't be tanking many, if any, velious raid mobs, so doesn't seem like you NEED to play a warrior

knights are way cheaper to gear out as well

Warriors are fun once you get the proper toys.
Velious raids in general, knights are for off tanking. Pretty much everything vindi + is warrior only.

Warriors likely aren't merely as gear dependent as you remember. Rather, they're probably much more so. A Warrior IS its gear, much more so than any other class. However, that's not the right question to ask. Warriors are a specialized class, and they have a unique lock on their role. The real question is whether you want to perform that role.

Warriors are strictly a long-term commitment. They're terrible at low through mid levels, and remain terrible at high levels with crummy gear. If you're the sort of player who gets bored and quits a character once it plateaus off in the high 50's, make something else. If you want to push through the leveling phrase and spend most your time living in very high-end content, you can get good service from the Warrior class. If you want to be the rock star who main tanks the biggest raid bosses, it's your ONLY practical choice. It's not for everyone, but there are folks out there who greatly enjoy that sort of rush and who are willing to put up with the many levels of weakling-mode to get there. Consider it a rite of passage.


Danth

paladin was naked and L45? :p

i leveled 1-54 in full crafted using CoM weapons once I hit 40. at 54 I left CoM for seb and from there I geared, leveled, and farmed to 60. this was on red ofc so it took a lot less time but i never had a problem holding agro as long as the group wasnt full retard.