Project 1999 - Just a reminder for new and old players regarding Real Money Transactions (RMT)

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Originally Posted by Swish (Post 1879985)

500+ accounts got banned for MQ'ing last time? That's a lot of rogue/cleric epics.

Something tells me it wasn't just MQ transactions that were involved.

Either way, if you have logs and get hit you've got some kind of record.

Better advice, don't play the tunnel game... roll an alt ;)

Where you getting 500+ from? I never saw any numbers given for the last ban wave unless i missed it or it was on Sirkens Talk show.

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Originally Posted by Thulack (Post 1880033)

Where you getting 500+ from? I never saw any numbers given for the last ban wave unless i missed it or it was on Sirkens Talk show.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=181740 The number posted was 440 though.

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Originally Posted by Nicoladen (Post 1879964)

That doesn't prove anything though.
I can prove that the transaction occurred - But they already know that - since the script flagged my char.
Anyway I should probably be wearing a tin foil hat - stuff like this just makes me think and worry a bit.
If my account was ever to get banned it would make the wife happy atleast :p

if you paid 60k for a fungi, you obviously didnt also pay RL money for it. we dont blindly ban people. if we ban you, we have a specific reason (usually a specific transaction), and you have a direct connection to an RMTer we caught.

the reason we have false positives is because RMTers are trying to mix legit trades in with their RMT dealings because they think this makes it harder to catch them. it doesnt. but we do just ban everything to ensure we catch everything. its not the best system admittedly, but in our eyes its better to be sure we get all of it and unban innocents on a case by case review, than to risk not hitting all the RMTers.

if you are wrongly banned, you can always go to the petition/exploit forum, and you can ask why and you will be given a chance to explain the situation. i understand players can be frustrated over this, but please be polite, because if we just banned 440 accounts for RMT, it means we spent the last two weeks digging through logs all day and all night, and we have no patience for rudeness.

hope that helps clear some things up,

<3
Sirken

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Originally Posted by Sirken (Post 1878847)

I've seen an influx of new players on Project 1999 in the recent days, and I just wanted to take a minute to address them, as well as our veteran players.

Do not spend RL money for things on Project 1999. Trading Project 1999 items, currency, accounts, etc. for anything not within Project 1999 is considered Real Money Trading (henceforth referred to as RMT).

We take this rule very seriously, and I constantly see players post in the petition forum explaining that they didn’t know it was against the rules, that they are very sorry, and that they won’t do it again. And while it truly saddens us when we have to ban accounts, we have these rules publicly posted for everyone to read. We strongly believe that part of the reason people play here is because they can do so for free, and know that no one else can pay for an advantage, or buy their way ahead, and that if a person does engage in these activities they will be banned. But furthermore, those accounts banned for RMT will never be unbanned on the Project 1999 server.

Because of how serious we take this, and because of the malicious methods enacted by these RMT sellers, we take a "better safe than sorry" approach. This means that if you engage in RMT activities, you are not only risking your own account, you are risking every account you ever logged in to. That means all your friends and guildies that trusted you with their login info, will also lose all their time, items, characters, and accounts as well. We take this very seriously here at Project 1999, and we ask that you do as well.

As a side note, I understand that some people simply have more money than time, and they see no problem with buying things since they don’t have the time. This opinion is fine, as long as you don’t do it on Project 1999. There are hundreds of other games out there that allow RMT, pay to win, or have cash shops. However we at Project 1999 do not want that on our server, and we kindly ask for you to respect that.

So how does this work in concern to GMs engaging in RMT? Just sweep it under the rug? Pretend the GM was never a member of the staff on the server? Integrity? Is there any left?

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Originally Posted by AceDSilva (Post 1880215)

So how does this work in concern to GMs engaging in RMT? Just sweep it under the rug? Pretend the GM was never a member of the staff on the server? Integrity? Is there any left?

if you feel a GM is engaging in RMT, or, violating any other rule that our staff must follow, please send all evidence of this claim to Rogean in a PM. unless you think you have proof of Rogean being dirty, then you should send it to Nilbog.

any time a staff member has been found breaking these very serious rules, Rogean has instantly removed all their access from the server, investigated the issue, and handled it appropriately.

if you truly believe this staff or this server have no integrity, then maybe you should play somewhere else, because it doesn't sound like you're able to have fun here, and at the end of the day, you should only be here if you're having fun.

<3
Sirken

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Originally Posted by Nicoladen (Post 1879964)

If my account was ever to get banned it would make the wife happy atleast :p

Everyone should be prepared to have their accounts banned. Anyone is susceptible to doing any number of trades with an RMTer that could end up looking suspicious for a multitude of reasons.

I get the feeling people think that getting caught up in a banwave is a one-way ticket - they've found you guilty and there's no convincing them otherwise. This isn't how it works. Even if you don't have logging enabled and have a very hazy recollection of the transaction in question, you're still gonna get out of jail if you just stay calm and tell them the truth. They have server logs, they have ways to find out what happened and ways to verify your story.

That said, everyone should have logging enabled so that when you do get thrown in jail, you'll have the necessary resources to make it as short and painless of an experience as possible. Don't panic, don't throw a fit - if you're innocent there's no reason to get upset, just tell them what you know of the transaction in question and things will work out.

It might take a few days. That might seem like an eternity to some of you nerds, but you'll get through it. I promise.

It's another good reason to only have one character per registered account. If you have to wait (x) time to get the account back you'll at least have an alt to play on while waiting.

For some reason I had 500 in my head, sorry for the inaccuracy.

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Originally Posted by armyveteran248 (Post 1880330)

I'm interested in seeing how this banwave policy plays out in the long run. Its basically "kill them all, let God sort it out" or rather "ban them all, let the GMs sort it out."

In almost any other venue in 2015, a "kill 'em all" mentality is a great way to get the opposite of what you want (see: 2003 Invasion of Iraq). In an MMO, where things are completely different, the strategy may work to destroy the "terrorist" RMT'ers.

Considering that a good portion of people that have been legit permabanned multiple times keep coming back and leveling new characters, Evercrack is stronger than Krazy Glue + Gorilla Glue.

Hey!

Didn't realize RMT was illegal. I engaged in RMT on account <Redacted by Moderators>. Can you go ahead and just ban me now? I'd like to go ahead and start playing without having to fear that my time will be lost, in addition to my money.

Would be nice if there was some sort of click - through that explained the RMT policy as it seems to be pretty commonplace in most modern games. Not trying to preach...just if you have a very serious policy, it'd be nice if it was represented with the requisite severity.

Really casual player here, just getting back into the game. I have a couple of questions about what to do while I'm playing to cover my butt in case I'm unjustly punished in the future. I understand that this is very unlikely to occur but I'd like to have evidence if I have to prove myself innocent.

How will enabling logging help a player prove himself innocent in the event he is wrongly caught in a banwave? Does a player log have some information that GM's can't see in server logs? Do I need to do anything to timestamp and archive my play logs between playing sessions?