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Daldaen 11-05-2014 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Estu (Post 1668841)
Do you guys have evidence for this? I've heard that it doesn't work when resisted. It's easy to confuse these two situations: 1) you not causing additional aggro by wasting a few seconds casting Concussion and having it resisted, so when you nuke afterwards and don't pull aggro it seems like Concussion worked, and 2) Concussion actually working on a resist. Has anyone tested it on this server as mentioned above?

Concussion *should work* on a resist.

There are classic posts about this that I've quoted before. I've been too lazy to get my Naggy/Vox wizard concussion though. Involves transferring puppet strings and finding the human skeleton up in KC... Very tedious.

Otherwise I would test this and bug report if not working correctly.

But the Aggro component of every spell is fixed. Whether your Sunstrike does 1 damage, full damage or resists it is the same amount of net Hate points. Same is true of every other single target spell. Even those that reduce aggro. Whether it lands or resists concussion should be the same -X hate every cast.

sox7d 11-05-2014 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Belleraphone (Post 1667964)
see title. I was attracted to their high burst damage but after browsing the forum it seems people think pretty lowly of wizards. Could some of the more experienced players offer some clarification on this? Should I reroll? I'm fine with being useless for my low and middle levels, but I'd at least like to be useful at the higher end/raid type stuff. Seems like the general consensus here is that even when wizards are useful, someone else can do it better.

Wizard was my first character on this server four years ago. Here's my take.

You are not cut out for grouping. I've made spreadsheets and shit. The math just isn't there. Your sustained damage is way more garbage than "nuking down in emergancies" and stuns will benefit. At level 60, your most mana efficient nuke is ~3.6 damage per mana. Druids and Magicians get ~3.2 damage per mana. It's a fucking joke. I am the most fervent, mouth-frothing voice in favor of inviting hybrids and anyone LFG in the "play the class you want" thread, and I still don't invite wizards.

Be a burden to society by grouping until you can quad around ~30, take up a hobby like guitar or art or some shit and prepare to get good at it, because a quad every 10 minutes is the best way to go. Pro-tip: Wood elf guards at 52 are amazing quad exp, never camped and drop 11pp each. Don't be a pussy, do that camp.

Do that till 56 then hit Chardok AE till 60 where you can start selling proxys and making bank. As far as raiding, you do have the highest raid DPS, especially during Velious, so enjoy that.

Ella`Ella 11-05-2014 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tongpow (Post 1668180)
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:07 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:15 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:23 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 17 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 345 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon bashes YOU for 148 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:33 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 620 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:33 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 345 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:38 2014] You regain your concentration and continue your casting.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:38 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:39 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 620 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:39 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 170 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:40 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 370 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:41 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 195 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:41 2014] You are stunned!
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:41 2014] Trakanon bashes YOU for 155 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:48 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:48 2014] You have slain Trakanon!
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:49 2014] You gain party experience!!

not me, but yeah wizards p gud much fun

3k Hp on this wiz and not a single heal in between? Pwn!

Tuljin 11-05-2014 05:26 PM

Yep...and what the hell does a Wizard need HP for anyways?

Arclyte 11-05-2014 07:28 PM

It's not classic, but I feel like wizards should be getting crits at lvl 12 like they did when luclin first came out

Evia 11-06-2014 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Arclyte (Post 1669191)
It's not classic, but I feel like wizards should be getting crits at lvl 12 like they did when luclin first came out


I am big on everything staying as classic as possible. However, I have to agree with you on this one.

Daldaen 11-06-2014 04:50 PM

Wizards, Rangers and Druids were all fixed with their raid and group roles come PoP with AAs.

PoP was the pinnacle of EQ. Hope to see this server make it there one day. It was the shit.

Estu 11-06-2014 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Daldaen (Post 1670279)
Wizards, Rangers and Druids were all fixed with their raid and group roles come PoP with AAs.

PoP was the pinnacle of EQ. Hope to see this server make it there one day. It was the shit.

PoP killed the big world and community feeling with those dumb PoK books and the dumb PoK zone having everything you needed in one place.

Daldaen 11-06-2014 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Estu (Post 1670291)
PoP killed the big world and community feeling with those dumb PoK books and the dumb PoK zone having everything you needed in one place.

Sounds a lot like EC. Except everyone expects my druid or wizard to port them wherever they need to go.

Planes were big and everything being in one place was nice, gave people somewhere to congregate, sell, skill up TSes, train, buy new spells and quest. PoK's community was fantastic. Great staging ground for any level of grouping as well.

iruinedyourday 11-06-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Daldaen (Post 1670310)
Sounds a lot like EC. Except everyone expects my druid or wizard to port them wherever they need to go.

Planes were big and everything being in one place was nice, gave people somewhere to congregate, sell, skill up TSes, train, buy new spells and quest. PoK's community was fantastic. Great staging ground for any level of grouping as well.

Yeah but a different game altogether than classic Eq


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