Project 1999 - Outlaw Powerleveling

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OP Summary :
I have no friends to pl me

Why not just add mercs then? Essentially the same thing.

From what I see in guildchat alot of PL is traded between people, quid pro quo.

Powerleveling isn't so bad, I think the dorf I powerleveled in Mistmoore would disagree with it being banned, same with the ranger and shaman I powerleveled in Oasis today ;) And yeah, It was one of the 5% powerlevels ( out of kindness) .

There is a huge difference between powerleveling and boxing. Do you really wanna see boxers take the majority of the camps, that is what happened on live? That is the beauty of this server, no boxing frees up tons of camps for groups! And when you can't two box you have to actually "interact" with people and get help, which is another cool thing about this game. Just my 2 cents.

Anyone can sit here and talk about how bad powerleveling is, but I bet if someone offered it , your arse would be all over that powerlevel ;) This game is tough enough as it is leveling, any break/help you get is a good thing !

Honestly I've been priveleged to have a PL a couple of times, and the only times it has ever happened to me is when a kind high lvl player has PLed my entire group. He pulled from our camp, and from much higher level camps that were unoccupied and completely impossible to do on our own. I don't see how this was detrimental to anyone else in the zone or in our group. We were a full group of 6 still talking and working together, no one else was short on mobs at any time, and we all added him to our friends list. There was much merriment to have, and I got a little bit of a break on my hell level.

Now, as far as PLing in a highly populated zone taking from prospective camps that appropriately leveled characters could be doing, that falls into a bit of an iffy category I think. It's really frustrating from the standpoint of a low-mid level character to see a lvl 60 breezing through an entire zone of mobs to PL one person when all you're looking to do is lay claim to one camp.

I don't think PLing should be outlawed, but I also don't think a PLer should be able to lay claim to more than one camp if a sufficient group of appropriately leveled characters is present. The rules as they are now say if you can hold it and maintain a presence, it's yours. But a PLer can often hold a whole zone. I say, if a group of people just wanting xp comes along, let the PLer get first pick at their camp, and let the other group take whatever else they want. It just plain isn't fair seeing people excluded from a whole zone of content because one PLer wants to pull the whole zone.

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Originally Posted by Swish (Post 716952)

I don't doubt there's some boxers already who think they're getting away with it permanently. If boxing was suddenly allowed, players who don't want to box become at a disadvantage and will then be turned towards levelling necromancers etc. No point levelling a rogue if there's nobody to group with right?

Did you quote the wrong part of my post? Your argument doesn't make sense anyway, but it makes even less sense with the part of the post you quoted. I wasn't arguing that there are people 2 boxing now. I argued people who would normally 2 box by themselves will probably just solo by themselves with the current rules.

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This is a very subjective view. People come back to a server like this to recreate the old EQ experience they had in 1999-2001. If they turn up, roll a rogue and then get into the teen levels to see a bunch of boxers who don't want to slow their progress down, that guy probably either:-

A - Rolls a soloable class (probably not a cleric or tank unless they're extra committed)
B - Leaves the server.

So in fact, by opening up P99 to boxers might water down the existing 'real' population (I know I'd quit for THF or something) and then you have the R99 situation where nobody logs in because the server population is already so low and the experience essentially is logging on, putting on LFG for a while, then giving up.

The underlying point is that boxing isn't allowed, and it should stay that way - or scrap R99 and make it a blue "boxing allowed" server.

What if a person's original EQ experience from 1999-2001 included 2 boxing? I know I started 2 boxing pretty early since my brother played a cleric, which was necessary, and he didn't play at the same hours as me. So my classic EQ experience includes 2 boxing.

And for your poor rogue that leveled into the teens and ran into people 2 boxing who didn't want to group... What does he do now if he levels up to the teens and sees a bunch of people soloing who don't want to group? It's the same thing. You pretend like eliminating 2 boxing suddenly makes everyone want to group together.

I'd be all for a blue boxing allowed server. I bet blue boxing would kill blue off though, so I doubt the devs would go for such an idea.

If you wanna box just choose another server. Most allow it. The Sleeper is said to allow you to use 1 or 2 boxes. Part of the thing that makes P1999 P1999 is no boxing.

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Originally Posted by Raavak (Post 716997)

If you wanna box just choose another server. Most allow it. The Sleeper is said to allow you to use 1 or 2 boxes. Part of the thing that makes P1999 P1999 is no boxing.

And thats why this is Project 1999 and not actual Classic 1999. The Dev's do what they "think" is in the best interest of the server if it's classic or not.

PLing is fine just dont be a douche, 2-boxxing is retarded and will never be allowed on this server

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