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Originally Posted by Nedala (Post 56977)

I dont think thats possible, you can make the pets look luclin-like, but i think thats default anyway.

Most people love the old character models, including myself :)

I feel you on the character models thing, but I sort of moved on from that. They do make me smile and remember good times, bunch of little colored squares and triangles owning stuff - ah memories lol.

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Originally Posted by guineapig (Post 56970)

Not being able to look up locations, quest dialogues and raid strategies would be VERY interesting indeed. Some of the old quest dialogues were extremely vague and purposefully so and took people months to figure out. Often times these were group efforts just figuring out the next piece of the puzzle.

That would be something I would support once this server has finished all of Velious. Creating new custom quests that start in secret locations throughout Norrath. Make them nice and complex but quite not epic quest calibur.

Maybe even have the rewards be all of the items that were previously removed from the game over the years... ie: manastone, guise, Box of Abu-kar, etc. By this point there would be hundreds of people who weren't even around when these items were in the game and it could take weeks to months before the first quest is even figured out.

That's a great idea. Once we get to the end of the progression (still quite a while to go) I hope GM events and created quests like this would be the focus of the devs.

I'm sure Druids/Pallys would throw random buffs on me in WoW as they ran past all the time...

Buffs in WoW are usually insta-cast, plus the mana spent on them is regained almost instantly. Buffing in EQ costs ALOT more in time/mana. In fact, to turn this thread on its head, EQ is the *only* MMO I've ever played where people are expected to PAY for buffs, which is pretty ridiculous IMO.

/salute WoW on this one I'm afraid.

It costs my lvl 5 Cleric something like 40% of his mana to cast Courage and Holy Armor :eek:

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Originally Posted by Rael (Post 57336)

Buffs in WoW are usually insta-cast, plus the mana spent on them is regained almost instantly. Buffing in EQ costs ALOT more in time/mana. In fact, to turn this thread on its head, EQ is the *only* MMO I've ever played where people are expected to PAY for buffs, which is pretty ridiculous IMO.

/salute WoW on this one I'm afraid.

Yeah, and when you want to get from one place to another you click on one of the flight paths, in eq you have to beg a druid or wizard to port you.

EQ community > WoW. And i've never charged for buffs, nor accepted donations. So dunno where you get the expecting to pay for buffs.

Only thing people expect to be paid for are things that take their time to do - like porting. Other's offer their buffs as a service for donations, technically you could donate nothing, but then that'd be a pretty dickish thing to do anyway.

Yeah, don't know that I've ever been asked to pay for a buff in EQ. I try to donate or buff back when I can though, just as a "thank you".

Ports, rezzes, corpse summoning - yeah that can cost, but that's because it's time consuming (and can even be dangerous at times) in EQ. That's not the case in a spoon-fed clickfest like WoW though.

What it boils down to is - there's nothing WORTH paying for in WoW. :cool:

I agree, its good for this reason as well as the equal level of attention seekers. EQ Drama is the best on the internets.

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Originally Posted by firesyde424 (Post 56019)

So I was sitting on my cleric NFP today, trying to find something useful to make that would repay me the 400 plat I had sunk into my baking skill over the last several days, when I see several purple and blue sprites appear around my cleric and a brown boot surrounded by a blue background appear in my buff window.

Someone had SoW'ed me....

I didn't ask for it, didn't spam or beg or offer to donate. Someone just.. cast SoW on me. It wasn't a big deal. It's happened tons of times already just on P99 since I started playing, and more times than I can count while I played on live. So immersed and steeped into the EQ experience was I, that it didn't really register to me what had happened until I thought back to the several years of WoW that I played, trying to remember if that had ever happened to me in WoW.

Right then, it occurred to me that I couldn't remember another time in any of the other MMO's I had played, and I have played quite a few, that someone had just dropped a random buff on me. In fact, I had tried to remember a time in WoW when I had sat on my druid and just buffed random passersby. I must admit, I couldn't. And yet, earlier today, I had sat on my cleric in EC, buffing and healing newbies while I was working on my baking skill.

And it dawned on me, despite outdated graphics, tortuous(sometimes) gameplay, one of the harshest death penalties in any MMO, and sections of leveling that are quite literally labelled "Hell", Everquest is by far, the best MMO I've played.

What makes it great? The immersion and the community. We have the best community of people, people who will help each other out for no reason other than they want to. People who will stop on their way through EC to buff the newbies. And Immersion.... I created a necro again on this server and still felt the wonder and chills of walking into the Neriak Necro guild for the "first" time.

/salute EQ

I agree that EQ players are far more helpful (generally)... though I'll take the drugs you're having about the chills in the necro guild ;)

You have to remember with WOW though that buffs were level-restricted right from the beginning. Plus, buffs don't make a really huge difference in your ability to survive. There also isn't any run speed or hitpoint regen or mana regen buff you could cast on someone else.

However in EQ, throw a Sow, Skin like nature, chloroplast and shield of thorns on a level 1, and he can solo stuff 8 or 9 levels above himself- heal him while he's fighting, and he can go even higher. Give a clarity to a soloing caster, and it will speed up their experience gain considerably. Give a SoW to anyone, and it just makes their life better in general, whether they are going somewhere or experiencing.

Drive-by buffing makes a much bigger impact on the recipient in EQ than in most other games, and that probably has an effect on why it is so much more common.

The comparison as I see it; In WoW you're treated like you're someone else in traffic speeding to where you want to go.

In EverQuest, you're on vacation with friends, so however the day takes you, it takes you.