Death has to have some sting imo.

You sound irritated so dying is having it's intended effect.

OLD MEN BEING OLD

5 times to pvp

Right but irritated to the point of leaving the game cuz u gotta do lots of pve to do a little pvp?

And ive seen some way nastier death penalties than this, having played eve online.

But eve has more depth, you have more invested in it, etc...

red99 at 50 is basically an arena pvp server, where if u die u gotta grind and grind some more just so you can joust once in a while.

If i cant take it, you can bet most people wont either.

So to me its either we gimp xp loss a bit, or a bit more, or server pop is gonna continue downward spiral.

Dood should be carefull Sirken is gona come change your name for pvp'ing

I'm glad no one has attempted to explain how the mechanic benefits the server more than it harms it. Shows how inappropriate it is for the server currently.