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lol Aba Dozekar was not classic, and he wasnt NToV! HoT HoT HoT baby!

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Originally Posted by Hasbinbad (Post 35082)

Bug section imo.

Really this is fucked up. To my understanding they had to change the way ae's work because certain guilds would "corner" a boss to use geometry to avoid ae. They changed the mechanic of AE in order to fix that (non-classic, but addresses the problem), but this situation is definitely a non-classic side effect.

Please find another way to deal with "cornering" so that the kind of situation Aba presents doesn't happen. This is extremely non-classic and makes life extremely difficult for small rogues trying to sneak through packed dungeons.

This is classic in my opinion, We would also corner things regardless to avoid AOE, or dealing with a rampage.. This should be fixed.

rampage? i was under the impression the rampage target is always the second person on the hate list and it doesnt require LoS? fuzzy memory thou ><

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Originally Posted by Uaellaen (Post 35445)

rampage? i was under the impression the rampage target is always the second person on the hate list and it doesnt require LoS? fuzzy memory thou ><

A few mobs in velious AOE rampage. Avatar of war comes to mind.

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Originally Posted by Ferok (Post 35446)

A few mobs in velious AOE rampage. Avatar of war comes to mind.

That's wrong, on both statements. Avatar uses flurry on his target, I dont think he even has a single target rampage.

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Originally Posted by Gwence (Post 35469)

That's wrong, on both statements. Avatar uses flurry on his target, I dont think he even has a single target rampage.

Maybe he meant Vindi?

But he only has single-target rampage, not AoE.

yea vindi is ST ramp, i cant think of any velious bosses that have ae ramp. In fact Im pretty sure the ae rampage mechanic wasnt introduced at all until Planes of Power expansion. At least I cant remember from my memory any Luclin or Velious mob that ae rampages, if their is one tell me which Im interested!

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Originally Posted by Gwence (Post 35469)

That's wrong, on both statements. Avatar uses flurry on his target, I dont think he even has a single target rampage.

Perhaps AOE rampage was later on. You're right about AoW, dunno what I was thinking. Probably getting confused with RZTW or something.

Pretty sure Tormax and Vindicator were both single target. Statue by all accounts was AoW but slowable. I don't recall anything from ToV with a memorable melee other than Vyemm, and Vyemm was only difficult because of the fear.

Edit: Now I'm just wracking my brain trying to remember why "max melee" range was important on any of the giants. I can only remember that being important on a few dragons who had a closer-range aoe and the AE ramp mobs. Perhaps that was just my guildleader forcing us to practice.

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Originally Posted by Ferok (Post 35476)

Vyemm didn't use fear, he used AE directional knockback & was unslowable till POP and disease slow came out. Vyemm was difficult because of him knocking all your clerics up in the air mid way through a quad and then dropping the hammer on your tank with 6 straight hits + AE damage and making his face explode.

No dragon cept maybe occasionally Lady Mirenilla used fear in North, and her simply cause she was an SK.

Max melee was important due to the fact that some of their hitboxes were so large that you could get the range aggro reduction and literally unload with abandon.

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Originally Posted by Gwence (Post 35473)

I seem to recall one of the blobs in ST using an AE ramp or a resetting ramp, but I quit raiding for a while around that time. Mainly though it didn't get big play until DON/DOD.