The 12 guys who like PVP aren't there? Hmm.

While I appreciate your concern over the pvp community, believe it or not, the general interest is alot larger than you may think :P

You're joking, right? Considering it's a differential comparison of all the changes to the SOURCE CODE of a project. That's pretty fundamental to the point it boggles my mind.

I also don't trust the integrity of someone that doesn't respond to a single PM after asking to GM for his server. Nor someone that doesn't take the minimal effort to share a database that WASN'T HIS in the first place after he struggled to get it himself.

But hey, we're each entitled to our opinions, right?

so the whole point of your ranting was because someone didn't respond to your gm request

ok

I didn't PM him asking to be a GM, he asked me, I guess you missed that part in the rant or it wasn't very clear.

Thats the beauty of the internet. You dont have to trust me. Hope you find what you're looking for in a server.

Nobody has to trust you. That's true. However it's been proven time and time again that all these little PVP boxes last 2 weeks before the server admin we "didn't need to trust" ends up flaking out, shit canning the time we invested into developing a character for the 100th time around.

And you sir, seem exceptionally flaky. I haven't heard of you before these forums and despite all of the contempt I hold for Image and Devnoob, at least they have a reputation among EQEmu development. The only thing you have is the work of the VZTZ PVP devs that came before you, which you've already put to shame by safeguarding like it was your work to begin with. A server that was patchworked together that we have no real knowledge of and no dedicated place to congregate to discuss. A not-so-convincing message on the forums that you aren't going to "wipe it" yet your in-game motd states that you may change your mind.

So yes, good luck on earning the trust of any significant portion of the community to get them to play there. I think Naez pretty much summed it up at the beginning.

Play where you want bro. Seriously. I'm not asking you to trust me, I'm not asking anyone to come to my server. I'm simply providing an experience that was going to vanish (and did). I've got the VZTZ code up and running, we are in a development phase, but it's moving along. Secrets got a great oportunity to be part of something thats going to create the best PvP server out to date...I dont blame him for jumping at the oportunity. Until that happens, my server is up and running. I'm doing it for MY experience as well, to work with the database, the code, the pvp server administration, etc.

Secrets provided me with the code and database so I could get a server up and running. I said in a thread before this, that I havent released it, because it was "given" to me. I'm not hording it because it's my work. I'm hording it because it's NOT my work. I've heard nothing from Secrets on whether or not he wanted it to be publicly available. I'd think if he did, it'd be on a fileshare somewhere eh? Get in touch and see if he'll give it to you, it's very likely he will, after all, he gave it to me...an "unknown" right?

Like I said, I hope you find the server your looking for man.

You guys should hook up with Devnoob/Images.

Project Zek Forums
 

For now, so we dont have to utilize the p99 forums, especially since they have plans for their own PvP server:

http://projectzek.dyndns.org

That'll get you to the forums. Temporary host to get them up and running.

Thanks