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Ennewi 07-28-2025 04:38 PM

It's been how many years and no other creative guild was cobbled together by the same leadership.

No <Blue Man Group> comprised entirely of dark elves, allowing for rogues/bards with masks and all others with guises. No <Skeleton Crew> of necromancers, SKs, enchanters, and other Bert followers with AoNs? No <Fair Maidens of Faydwer>? Nothing to suggest a genuine interest in roleplaying. Granted, it was a cool idea but, as with most everything EQ-related, likely ruined by a few at the expense of the many.

Throughout the entire history of the project, count out the number of guilds that were disbanded by staff. You really have to go out of your way to get scattered to the four winds on here. One exception does come to mind, but even they weren't disbanded by staff directly.

shovelquest 07-28-2025 04:40 PM

It's actually based they got rid of that guild.

ya.dingus 07-28-2025 05:21 PM

Yeah I don't believe that for a second. This was politically motivated by tensions between members, and racism was just the scapegoat.

shovelquest 07-28-2025 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ya.dingus (Post 3752823)
racism was just the scapegoat.

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Ennewi 07-28-2025 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ya.dingus (Post 3752823)
Yeah I don't believe that for a second. This was politically motivated by tensions between members, and racism was just the scapegoat.

Ah yes... "Help, I'm being repressed!" Solid forum roleplaying.

ya.dingus 07-28-2025 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ennewi (Post 3752828)
Ah yes... "Help, I'm being repressed!" Solid forum roleplaying.

Seemed to hit a nerve there to get this much interest.

Seems like there's a story to be told there.

Ennewi 07-28-2025 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ya.dingus (Post 3752844)
Seemed to hit a nerve there to get this much interest.

Seems like there's a story to be told there.

Eh it's just a shame that the thematic RP potential wasn't fully realized by the guild and instead it seemed to be reduced to what ends up in RNF.

Few guilds have managed to add in that part of classic nostalgia, simply by including self-imposed restrictions; requirements that fit a specific, immediately identifiable theme; etc.

This was prevalent in 1999, but has been largely absent on these servers, with the overall atmosphere being more MMO and less RPG. Granted, the latter is at times awkward and excessive. When done right though, without walls of text, there's something about it that changes interactions for the better. Ninik was a good example.

As cool as it is seeing full BiS or learning about the new meta/emergent gameplay amid so much jank, there's that other aspect of the game that's still there, lingering in the scenery while players sock windows and strafe for FTEs. The original idea behind the game, however dated.

Reiwa 07-28-2025 10:08 PM

I never got an adequate explanation from them as to what was 'Dark' about them if not their magic or their religion.

Nirgon was(is?) a Bircher though.

Drueric 07-28-2025 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ya.dingus (Post 3752720)
Now that we're out of the age of illogical, contradictory, woke policies that are as racist as they were incoherent, I move to bring back the Dark Men of Odus.

They were never racist, they were an RP guild, and it is my hope that the community has gained the IQ needed to recognize the difference between fantasy elves, trolls, ogres, dark elves, and erudites, hating each other (aka the faction and religion system), from actual real life racism.

Don't let this nonsense define the community -- I don't want to be placed in the same bucket as these post modernists who are legitimate racists.

There is an iksar only guild, so why is this an issue. (Ironically the GM of that guild isnt even an iksar....) Seems like any guild with exclusivity would also get the ban. I mean, if they dont, what does that say about the devs.

Reiwa 07-28-2025 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Drueric (Post 3752928)
There is an iksar only guild, so why is this an issue. (Ironically the GM of that guild isnt even an iksar....) Seems like any guild with exclusivity would also get the ban. I mean, if they dont, what does that say about the devs.

I think it says they aren't fooled by people being intentionally obnoxious.


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