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Seducio 09-28-2021 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Convict (Post 3368421)
Its going to come down to server costs
Server costs are not of high concern given donation revenue over the lifetime of the project.

More than likely devs will make decisions around how much time they want to invest.

cd288 09-28-2021 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Seducio (Post 3368441)
Server costs are not of high concern given donation revenue over the lifetime of the project.

More than likely devs will make decisions around how much time they want to invest.
Lmao how would you know? You have zero insight into how much people have donated or how much the various server infrastructure costs for P99 specifically.

Servers and their maintenance can be quite expensive. I would be very surprised if player donations would be sufficient to cover it at this point. I would also imagine that donations are very sporadic, so any money that does come in isn't some never ending cash flow that covers the cost every month.

Seducio 09-28-2021 01:51 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers

Also: You are not intelligent are you?

cd288 09-28-2021 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Seducio (Post 3368490)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers

Also: You are not intelligent are you?
Lol that's really what you went with?

Seducio 09-28-2021 03:31 PM
Correct. If you were intelligent you would be able to do the math on this one. If you think that lifetime donation revenue doesn't cover server costs we wouldn't be here.

Wake up.

Ooloo 09-28-2021 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Seducio (Post 3368545)
Correct. If you were intelligent you would be able to do the math on this one. If you think that lifetime donation revenue doesn't cover server costs we wouldn't be here.

Wake up.
You're being too academic about it. Things occur temporally, "lifetime server donations" is an irrelevant metric, because it's not a set value. Donations fluctuate, monthly server costs don't.

There's a very real possibility that if p99 were to shut down, they would incur a net loss all things considered. You don't know what the server costs are, the stability of donations, nor whether the owners put up their own money to keep things afloat. You have none of that information. Linking to a wikipedia article about a mathematical concept doesn't just magically make it apply to everything.

Tunabros 09-28-2021 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Convict (Post 3368421)
Dont know where you are getting this idea from.. people that arent able to get some raid gear or BiS gear by 6 months after the final patch on green probably wouldn't of gotten that on blue either anyways, so it doesn't change anything. Merging the servers wont make it suddenly overcrowded, there's a ton of overlap of players playing on both servers.

I really can't think of a major downside or upside to merging servers that is a make or break decision for GM's to merge or not merge. Its going to come down to server costs, spread out resources, and the logical thing to me seems like merging them would have the best outcome (for them), especially if they plan to open yet another server.
lol have you seen green? it's a clusterfuck of raiders

no one is making alts anymore

cd288 09-28-2021 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ooloo (Post 3368647)
You're being too academic about it. Things occur temporally, "lifetime server donations" is an irrelevant metric, because it's not a set value. Donations fluctuate, monthly server costs don't.

There's a very real possibility that if p99 were to shut down, they would incur a net loss all things considered. You don't know what the server costs are, the stability of donations, nor whether the owners put up their own money to keep things afloat. You have none of that information. Linking to a wikipedia article about a mathematical concept doesn't just magically make it apply to everything.
Precisely

Trexller 09-28-2021 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sizar (Post 3367808)
The next server should have no legacy items, and all the quality of life enhancements that blue has / has ever had. Dot dmg displayed etc
buff timers. GINA is allowed. GINA shows us alot of QOL features, not just buff timers.

If GINA is allowed, and can handle these functions, then there is no good reason that the client and UI cannot possess these functions.

Blue should revert to its state a few years ago. Let blue be the "wild west" server where shit just goes down.

make green your "Helicopter Parent" server, where all of those "classic" features and rules are rigidly adhered to.

Seducio 09-28-2021 10:13 PM
The devs most valuable asset is their time.

Talk all you want about unknowns and fixed costs indicating you never ran a business or a server before. Devs figured that out long ago.

Their time is what matters most


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