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k9quaint 07-02-2021 01:10 PM

Not going to open discussions on bag limits or roll agreements until Straiker deletes.
No point in forming new agreements until Vanquish abides by current ones.

Allishia 07-02-2021 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Samoht (Post 3329418)
Ringroll isn't competitive. The problem is that the rolls are obviously just favoring one guild so far. As long as it's not a competitive spawn, it needs to be bag limited to keep people from getting a streak of 3 or more just because of RNG.

Actually I do agree with this, cause sometimes people are just toooo lucky with randoms /nod

Horza 07-02-2021 02:09 PM

Straiker, show yourself.

Synphul 07-02-2021 02:19 PM

Saying the RNG 'favors' any particular guild is one of the dumbest things I've seen spouted around here. The is no bias in the RNG towards any guild. A winning streak is a winning streak. They could just as easily be on the losing side of that streak.

remen 07-02-2021 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nexii (Post 3329381)
Bag limits on ring war as Vanquish desires would be charity pixels. There have been no ring war petitions since the rule changes.

I'm glad you brought up ring war. As others have mentioned ring war is no longer a competitive situation, just pure dumb luck, so bag limits have no impact on competition there.

Let's also remember that all of the petitions were from Kriot, whining and crying about about losing too much. They cried with baseless accusations of cheating to the GMs so much that the rules got changed to what they are now.

Samoht 07-02-2021 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Synphul (Post 3329483)
Saying the RNG 'favors' any particular guild is one of the dumbest things I've seen spouted around here. The is no bias in the RNG towards any guild. A winning streak is a winning streak. They could just as easily be on the losing side of that streak.

I knew there would be some dumbass arguing about the randomness, and yet here we are where a single guild has won almost ever roll.

Please think before you post.

Synphul 07-02-2021 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Samoht (Post 3329516)
I knew there would be some dumbass arguing about the randomness, and yet here we are where a single guild has won almost ever roll.

Please think before you post.

So you're saying the RNG is rigged? Otherwise, it's luck currently favoring one guild, not the RNG. Think before you post.

xdrcfrx 07-02-2021 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by remen (Post 3329512)
I'm glad you brought up ring war. As others have mentioned ring war is no longer a competitive situation, just pure dumb luck, so bag limits have no impact on competition there.

Let's also remember that all of the petitions were from Kriot, whining and crying about about losing too much. They cried with baseless accusations of cheating to the GMs so much that the rules got changed to what they are now.

Petitions from Various Guilds Since Last Mutual Raid Suspension in April:

Riot - 5/14 Dagarn (withdrawn); 5/14 Dain; 5/21 Yeli; 6/19 Vulak = 3 (4th withdrawn)

Vanquish (for sake of discussion, FRAG petitions counted here) - 4/17 Silverwing (withdrawn); 4/17 Dain; 4/27 Doze; 5/28 KT = 3 (4th withdrawn)

Kittens - 6/19 Vulak = 1.


Doesn't seem like Riot or Vanq are substantially different here; Kittens not overly involved at all. Vanquish wouldn't be spreading false narratives, would it? Certainly you guys are nothing if not straightforward and honest.

Note how most petitions are over non-ToV mobs since the inception of bag limits.

Samoht 07-02-2021 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Synphul (Post 3329520)
So you're saying the RNG is rigged?

Nope, not even close.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synphul (Post 3329520)
it's luck currently favoring one guild

Hey, you basically said the same thing I did! Look at you for acknowledging the issue.

So ringroll needs to be added to bag limits.

Synphul 07-02-2021 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Samoht (Post 3329526)
So ringroll needs to be added to bag limits.

Or you could just let the pendulum swing like it should/will with the RNG instead of adding yet another rule to the system. I'm sure you'd be right here asking for bag limits if the streak was to your advantage, too. I guess we'll see when it swings your way.


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