This is what petition a camping dispute looked like back in '99.

People argue over camp.
Someone(s) petitions.
Half an hour to an hour later a guide shows up.
Much like a substitute teacher tries best to get people to listen/cooperate, but 90% of the time that doesn't work because the players know he/she can't do shit, so he/she escalates it.
Half an hour a to an hour later different guide shows same thing happens and has to be escalated again
two to three hours later a GM finally shows up, and by this time the majority of the aggrieved payers have moved on and there s nothing to resolve.

Sometimes there is even a third guide before the GM arriving.

But getting back to the OP, generally I'd avoid overcamped places. If you get lucky and chips fall right then sure enjoy being there, but the majority of the time in primetime hours it won't be worth your headaches, especially if you are primarily wanting exp.

And I don't get this logic. Eventually everyone who keeps playing gets to level 50... and maybe will want to camp an item for themselves, an alt or to sell. wtf is the problem with that?

The most vitriol (edit: at leveling camps) I find comes from twinks racing through levels who are know it alls or lower level people that are already on the cusp of burning out..

It’s hit or miss. For the most part I have not found the orc camps in EC or WC to be occupied by high levels that frequently. I recently started leveling up a lowbie alt that I’d started awhile ago and hadn’t touched since, and the past few nights I’ve been in a full group at Orc 1 with Orc 2 completely open. I’ve seen WC camped by a high level a bit in that time but not too frequently.

Generally a good compromise if a high level is at a camp like this is to ask them if your group can XP there if they get to have some of the belts that drop. Many high levels will agree to some sort of deal like that and it’s a win for everybody.

Separately, if you’re running into this issue at those camps specifically I would head over to the Desert of Ro where there are a lot of Orc, Dervish, and some undead camps about the same level (Dervish Cutthroats are on the higher end though, like 10-13 I believe). People camp those Orcs in EC and WC sometimes because they frequently drop the belts that can be sold or used to level up an alt (although the XP isn’t great now that they’ve nerfed it). If all you’re looking for is XP there are many underutilized camps in the surrounding zones that I recommend checking out!

Right when the game came out maybe. Once we put the rules in place this didn’t happen and it would be clear in the petition queue that this was an issue that had been going on for the past 30-60 minutes and had already been looked into once. If the CSR member that handled the original request was still online, which they usually were, they would handle the follow up situation and issue official warnings if people had failed to abide by the imposed compromise. If your account hit 3 official warnings, you were triggered for a suspension (can’t remember what the initial suspension time was).

If im camping orc camps in EC for belts and i see lowbies who need exp, I'll always pass the camp off to them. Kind of a dick move to hoard the camp like that. So if you see me at an orc camp, just send me a tell that you're forming up and I'll be more than happy to hand it over.

if your level 50 and farming for DF belts and dont know that EC is the worst camp for them... we got bigger issues~! go to WC more orcs, go to sro, more camps/orcs~!

I’ve had GMs respond plenty of times to petitions over camp disputes over the years. They actually do a very good job at it

I have camped orcs before for an alt, when no one was selling, but i always go to the camp in wc, because low lvls use orc 1 , and orc 2 in ec , since they can run to tunn for buffs, or help with lord shin etc, and if that one is camped i sit by the camp and buy them s they have them .

Ive seen several 40 + camping orc 1 , and when i suggest going to wc camp because no one is there and the low lvls normally go to orc 1 as its safer then going all way to the came in wc, they replay yea that's nice , don't care i can farm belts and sell them easier here .

Ima vote name and shame including guildtag, that sort of childish crap should be called out loud and clear. All the more so because it violates no server rules, oh, except the alleged rule #1: don't be a dick.