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Daywolf 10-03-2016 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by maskedmelon (Post 2372886)
This is my point Day :/ Who s going to teach them to fish? Who will teach them to craft rods and line? Who is going to teach them them to defend themselves from the hungry people who have not been taught to fish? What will they do when they've exhausted the stream? Who is going to teach them the basic life skills needed to succeed?

If it is one person we are talking about then you can take them into your home, teach them all these things and help them get set up to start their own life. Donating 25 cents a day to Food For the Poor or funding individuals to go teach men to fish in their own lands does not fix the problem. It supports it.

I'm saying, give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, but teach a man to fish and he'll have food for a life time. But, there is no possible way because involved governments are damming up the stream purposely so that they cant be free and informed.

If you ever hear some of the globalist talk, the world leaders, they really don't want them learning or being allowed to fish, not figuratively or literally. They just want depopulation. They want strife. They want control. Not my guess, just stuff like Kissinger and the others talk about, what they do. Them suffering is engineered. As bad as you may think the system is, it's a lot worse.

But yeah, giving money to a UN program, well they are part of the problem to begin with. But there are others that do relief work and such. Like there are organizations that go out there and connect people with those in need, like for helping them buy goats or what not, which is a really big deal in some nations. The UN just has a different agenda, and it really has nothing of interest for long term success, other than their own. About as bad as the Clinton Foundation ripping off Haiti.

Jarnauga 10-03-2016 11:02 PM

Yes, because not being charitable IS charitable ! see that man drowning in front of you ? don't save him ! it's gonna teach him a lesson and he'll prolly learn to swim after that experience ! see ? you're actually being GOOD here. (also you save your hard-earned-millions-of-dollar-that-you-inherited-from-daddy because you didn't have to call an ambulance)

This is how you get a presidential candidate who feels perfectly fine not paying taxes, not paying contractors, because see, it's HIS money, if other people are not smart enough to get it from me and not get a better lawyer than i, they're not the smart ones, me me me and all the others can go to hell. That african child dying of aids because his raped mom gave him the virus giving him birth (remember abortion and contraception is evil, jesus told me) could totally make it if he just would work 90 hours a week like real americans chinese do in foxxcon factories building toys for richer people's kids. You too, Dave, you work 3 part time jobs already to support your mother that has dementia and the kid you got with that girl that left you for that asshole ? well it's kinda your fault honestly. but you can be rich too, if you just work a bit more and take a 4th job. What about you Nils ? You studied for 5 years and still can't get a job ? well you didn't study the right thing then ! see you have to mold your life after the market ! the market is the only thing that matters, who cares if you wanted to study philosophy, who the fuck cares about philosophy anyway ? just go be a car salesman ffs. thank god we have freedom in this country where you can do whatever you want !

We may live on the same planet, but we're definitely not part of the same world.

entruil 10-03-2016 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarnauga (Post 2373112)
Yes, because not being charitable IS charitable ! see that man drowning in front of you ? don't save him ! it's gonna teach him a lesson and he'll prolly learn to swim after that experience ! see ? you're actually being GOOD here. (also you save your hard-earned-millions-of-dollar-that-you-inherited-from-daddy because you didn't have to call an ambulance)

resisted posting self-rescue swimming lessons

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Originally Posted by Jarnauga (Post 2373112)
This is how you get a presidential candidate who feels perfectly fine not paying taxes, not paying contractors, because see, it's HIS money, if other people are not smart enough to get it from me and not get a better lawyer than i, they're not the smart ones, me me me and all the others can go to hell. That african child dying of aids because his raped mom gave him the virus giving him birth (remember abortion and contraception is evil, jesus told me) could totally make it if he just would work 90 hours a week like real americans chinese do in foxxcon factories building toys for richer people's kids. You too, Dave, you work 3 part time jobs already to support your mother that has dementia and the kid you got with that girl that left you for that asshole ? well it's kinda your fault honestly. but you can be rich too, if you just work a bit more and take a 4th job. What about you Nils ? You studied for 5 years and still can't get a job ? well you didn't study the right thing then ! see you have to mold your life after the market ! the market is the only thing that matters, who cares if you wanted to study philosophy, who the fuck cares about philosophy anyway ? just go be a car salesman ffs. thank god we have freedom in this country where you can do whatever you want !

We may live on the same planet, but we're definitely not part of the same world.

this is probably my favorite post of all time... the cracks are starting to show =)

 

kinda like coolio after he got back from sodor...
(just a bit of fun)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff8foe5qJWs


seriously enjoyed post jarn... peace.

Daywolf 10-03-2016 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarnauga (Post 2373112)
Yes, because not being charitable IS charitable

You don't know what I'm saying, you can't even figure out what melons is saying. All you have is the false narrative of theirs stuck in your head and everything is read and viewed through that perspective. They have enslaved your mind, jarn. You've taken the blue pill.

As for you crying about taxes, which is simply another left wing conspiracy theory, it's actually conservatives that out level liberals when it comes to giving to charity http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2014/1...-Conservatives

But then why would the liberals need feel the desire to give to charity when they can just raise taxes and call that charity. Take from others and give it to charity, that's the liberal idea. Of course charity starts in their own bank accounts (or to) like the rape of Haiti by the Clinton foundation. Meanwhile they use the same tax loopholes as everyone else, and even more so, especially since they put those loop holes there.

maskedmelon 10-04-2016 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jarnauga (Post 2373112)
Yes, because not being charitable IS charitable ! see that man drowning in front of you ? don't save him ! it's gonna teach him a lesson and he'll prolly learn to swim after that experience ! see ? you're actually being GOOD here. (also you save your hard-earned-millions-of-dollar-that-you-inherited-from-daddy because you didn't have to call an ambulance)

This is how you get a presidential candidate who feels perfectly fine not paying taxes, not paying contractors, because see, it's HIS money, if other people are not smart enough to get it from me and not get a better lawyer than i, they're not the smart ones, me me me and all the others can go to hell. That african child dying of aids because his raped mom gave him the virus giving him birth (remember abortion and contraception is evil, jesus told me) could totally make it if he just would work 90 hours a week like real americans chinese do in foxxcon factories building toys for richer people's kids. You too, Dave, you work 3 part time jobs already to support your mother that has dementia and the kid you got with that girl that left you for that asshole ? well it's kinda your fault honestly. but you can be rich too, if you just work a bit more and take a 4th job. What about you Nils ? You studied for 5 years and still can't get a job ? well you didn't study the right thing then ! see you have to mold your life after the market ! the market is the only thing that matters, who cares if you wanted to study philosophy, who the fuck cares about philosophy anyway ? just go be a car salesman ffs. thank god we have freedom in this country where you can do whatever you want !

We may live on the same planet, but we're definitely not part of the same world.

lol, this entire post is just silly ^^ It has nothing to do with your world or my world or anyone else's here. No, not being charitable is not actually charitable. Generally speaking charity is a selfish ambition to placate one's own conscience without actually solving the problem. It's a way for people feel good about themselves without doing anything, similar to religion or ideology. As therapy, sure it works, but it is nasty to be perfectly honest.

Ignoring a man drowning is a terrible analogy, because that is a situation is within most people's power to correct and the man's suffering (drowning) is not catching. Ending his suffering only ends it for him. Donating to "charitable" organizations would be akin to dumping a bunch of medium sized playland balls in to the whater to give the man just enough aid to keep him from drowning until he is finally exhausted and does drown.

As for abortion, I've voiced support of it before, but do not discard the objections of those who consider it murder. It does end a life. We've discussed this before with regard to partial birth abortions. If those are acceptable, why not infanticide? Both are equally repugnant practices, but the good that may come of them by ending and preventing suffering outweigh them. I could never consent to either, but I do not delude myself into thinking either is purely virtuous or in some way not vile. But the so is birthing a child's you cannot care for.

The idea that everyone can be rich is just silly too. Just as is the idea that people somehow deserve awful outcomes because they are not as smart as you. Everyone has the opportunity to do what they will of themselves, but not necessarily the resources to effect the outcome desired. Is it their fault they were born into misery? No. Is it nice to keep them in a perpetual state of misery?

Ahldagor 10-04-2016 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by maskedmelon (Post 2373345)
lol, this entire post is just silly ^^ It has nothing to do with your world or my world or anyone else's here. No, not being charitable is not actually charitable. Generally speaking charity is a selfish ambition to placate one's own conscience without actually solving the problem. It's a way for people feel good about themselves without doing anything, similar to religion or ideology. As therapy, sure it works, but it is nasty to be perfectly honest.

Ignoring a man drowning is a terrible analogy, because that is a situation is within most people's power to correct and the man's suffering (drowning) is not catching. Ending his suffering only ends it for him. Donating to "charitable" organizations would be akin to dumping a bunch of medium sized playland balls in to the whater to give the man just enough aid to keep him from drowning until he is finally exhausted and does drown.

As for abortion, I've voiced support of it before, but do not discard the objections of those who consider it murder. It does end a life. We've discussed this before with regard to partial birth abortions. If those are acceptable, why not infanticide? Both are equally repugnant practices, but the good that may come of them by ending and preventing suffering outweigh them. I could never consent to either, but I do not delude myself into thinking either is purely virtuous or in some way not vile. But the so is birthing a child's you cannot care for.

The idea that everyone can be rich is just silly too. Just as is the idea that people somehow deserve awful outcomes because they are not as smart as you. Everyone has the opportunity to do what they will of themselves, but not necessarily the resources to effect the outcome desired. Is it their fault they were born into misery? No. Is it nice to keep them in a perpetual state of misery?

........this...........is...........so...........c ute

maskedmelon 10-04-2016 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ahldagor (Post 2373349)
........this...........is...........so...........c ute

flattery will get you nowhere ^.~v

entruil 10-04-2016 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaboo_Cleric (Post 2373499)
Charity should come from the people. Not a mandatory obligation of the government. The problem is we are taxed too hard and the government is too large. Therefore, the additional funds that would be going to charities are being used for the globalist agenda.

bleeegh i agree with this^

they will never stop stealing from people who earn money and if they did global charities would be even worse, local charities and maybe some international ones could be okay but most of your donations are going to end up in the hillary rodham Tlinton(apparently) coffeurs...

if global charities are perpetuating misery... then the globalist agenda includes charity.

Nihilist_santa 10-04-2016 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by entruil (Post 2373515)
what if the globalist agenda includes charity?

HRT = brain rot.

entruil 10-04-2016 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa (Post 2373516)
HRT = brain rot.

lol here's a ted talk, includes germans.

Tim Harford: Trial, error and the God complex


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