I don't think you meant this for me, Sam...but just in case. No one on either server...not when I was in Divinity, nor any guild I've been in on red, (early Nihi, Red Dawn, or Fresh), will tell you I've cared about loot in the slightest.

What they will tell you is I've always cared about server growth. Both servers...almost from day 1 of the project. I think I came in like the second week of server up, lol.

And I remember a day when you were less jaded, Sam.

you have 3 kills in 3 years loser

I like you klaatu. But not sure why your urging people to leave a guild you don't even participate in anymore. How can you grow relationships if you don't even log in. and just LOL @ the general GG is dead drama. Mostly players who forum quest + people who were gonna leave anyways.

This guild is growing and is gonna have it's ups and it's downs. Writing off the guild before velious has even released when the guild was formed to contest empire IN velious is hillarious. Couple weeks ago empire consistently had less numbers then gg at any givin time unless they were raiding. GG has one bad week, Is rebuilding some members and everyone is acting like the sky is falling.

GG is a large guild, Empire is a large guild, Tmo is a large guild, Fresh, Azrael were large guilds. You think these guilds didn't/don't have clique's ? Every guild has them. What do you expect from guilds that field 40+ members. Comadre or not you are gonna have cliques unless your Prohets of Slosh, Id argue even they segregate eachother from time to time tho.

GG is alive and thriving. Those of us who were in it for the long haul and not just over night change will continue foward.

not meant for you.

not jaded btw, i just like to mess with max as hes the only crazy person on atm. once syft logs in, he'll get less attention.

I'm not writing <GG> off at all. I'm just saying that most of the <Fresh> I knew don't log in or play. Honestly, my leaving and urging ex-Fresh to <TMO> isn't really going to hurt <GG> at all, simply because there aren't that many that log in anymore. <Fresh> was bringing more to Fear trash clears than <GG> fields in raids...and that's just looking at pure numbers since inception. I just think <TMO> is the better alternative for our playstyles.

No harm, no foul.

Not asking to poach ex-Fresh that like <GG> either. This thread was directed more at all the folks that don't play, or the ones that want the kind of online experience <Fresh> gave to them that <GG> might not be providing.

Needed to clear that up. A 3-guild server works much better.

TLDR written by someone with dkp at stake if no dragons are slayed to used said dkp

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VV wasnt a raiding guild and Fair Fighters is empire. fail