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bktroost 05-02-2015 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Cecily (Post 1878608)
For the same reason Samoht thinks evade lowers DPS. (Although evading has an insignificant impact on DPS). You restart the weapon's attack timer when you swap. Do this multiple times over a fight, adding in human error and delays in swapping, and you're losing swings over time = lost DPS.

Thorn + Epic is going to be the best weapon combo in Kunark for most people. Swapping to a 15 DMG weapon to backstab will lower your DPS.
If you've had results suggesting otherwise, how big is your sample size? How often are you doing this?
You're saying that outside of VP that Thorn+Epic is best exp even with the reduced backstab?

Samoht 05-02-2015 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Cecily (Post 1878592)
False. Getting agro ultimately means lower DPS.
Not false. You can still evade without a macro.

Cecily 05-02-2015 09:20 PM
Alright then you're saying something different. Using a macro vs manual evading is simply preference. There's no dps difference.

Cecily 05-02-2015 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bktroost (Post 1878626)
You're saying that outside of VP that Thorn+Epic is best exp even with the reduced backstab?
Best damage? Yes. Backstab is only part of your damage as a rogue (30-40%). Reducing it in favor of more main hand output balances everything out, and at the same time keeping the atk bonus and haste from Ragebringer applied on all strikes. That being said, I REALLY prefer Ragebringer / RSSS on Velious stuff. TS shines in Kunark because it can hit a bunch of times in duelist. I don't care for it on longer fights.

Ravager 05-02-2015 10:02 PM
I petitioned once about this, my friend and I were killing bugs in seb and a rogue snuck up and pp'd the bug while we were killing it. The guide who answered was Amelinda and she ruled in favor of the dirtbag rogue saying it was a class skill. I said it was kinda lame, since he assumes no risk when he pp's someone else's mobs, but she didn't reply to that and closed the matter.

I think it should be against the rules, but that's just me.

Voland 05-02-2015 10:40 PM
I thought that pickpocketing does not affect the loot that mob drops when killed? Or am I thinking about another game?

Cecily 05-02-2015 10:55 PM
That's a very old rumor, but completely untrue. Pickpocketing does in fact remove coin and items from a mob's inventory, excluding items that are magic, no drop, or wielded. There's also a level cap on it. Fungi tunics aren't magic flagged, but they still can't be stolen because of that cap.

Someone stealing from your mobs is directly impacting what you'll see on the corpse.

Swish 05-02-2015 10:57 PM
Eunomia I was roleplaying I swear! Pls don't ban!

Cecily 05-02-2015 11:02 PM
That's the traditional scumbag argument. Stealing involves risk. Either risk getting killed solo from a crit fail or risk getting thrown out of your group. If you steal out of group, there is no risk to you. It's bad sportsmanship. It's being a bad player. It's being a bad rogue.

bktroost 05-02-2015 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Ravager (Post 1878718)
I petitioned once about this, my friend and I were killing bugs in seb and a rogue snuck up and pp'd the bug while we were killing it. The guide who answered was Amelinda and she ruled in favor of the dirtbag rogue saying it was a class skill. I said it was kinda lame, since he assumes no risk when he pp's someone else's mobs, but she didn't reply to that and closed the matter.

I think it should be against the rules, but that's just me.
I stopped reading at "Amelinda". No explanation needed.


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