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Schortt 02-12-2015 11:21 PM

The offer is appreciated, but I would encourage you to just collect data on your own as I usually do this whenever I happen to have some spare time and it's often at very random hours. I'll send you a tell this weekend if I remember in any case.

I do always use the exact same mob to run a series of parses, never killing it, and I don't use slows because it just makes parsing sessions take that much longer. Mobs that flurry are actually a plus because you can get a statistically useful number of hits that much faster! If your tank is dying, roll more cleric alts and betacopy/buff them. Boxing on beta is legit, use it to your advantage.

Tapatio 02-13-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Schortt (Post 1757473)
Hmm. Mitigation seems to be scaling pretty well within my means of testing it.

All data is a 60 Iks Monk getting hit by the same level 59 Crystal Destroyer in Velks (max hit 350) for roughly 10 minutes.

All AC values were with identical buffs (aego) and achieved by removing gear down to 877. To get below that I had to load up on plat to get some AC penalty going on.

1171 AC
--- Total damage: 32455 --- Avg hit: 186 --- Swings: 399 --- Defended: 100 (25.1%) --- Hit: 174 (43.6%) --- Missed: 125 (31.3%) --- Accuracy: 58.2% --- Dodged: 18 (5.7%) --- Parried: 0 (0%) --- Blocked: 67 (16.8%) --- Riposted: 15 (4.5%) --- Absorbed: 0 (0%)

1070 AC
--- Total damage: 44798 --- Avg hit: 199 --- Swings: 481 --- Defended: 112 (23.3%) --- Hit: 225 (46.8%) --- Missed: 144 (29.9%) --- Accuracy: 61% --- Dodged: 17 (4.4%) --- Parried: 0 (0%) --- Blocked: 75 (15.6%) --- Riposted: 20 (4.9%) --- Absorbed: 0 (0%)

969 AC
--- Total damage: 40925 --- Avg hit: 210 --- Swings: 447 --- Defended: 115 (25.7%) --- Hit: 194 (43.4%) --- Missed: 138 (30.9%) --- Accuracy: 58.4% --- Dodged: 28 (7.8%) --- Parried: 0 (0%) --- Blocked: 68 (15.2%) --- Riposted: 19 (5%) --- Absorbed: 0 (0%)

877 AC (naked + aego)
--- Total damage: 45533 --- Avg hit: 229 --- Swings: 498 --- Defended: 142 (28.5%) --- Hit: 198 (39.8%) --- Missed: 158 (31.7%) --- Accuracy: 55.6% --- Dodged: 28 (7.3%) --- Parried: 0 (0%) --- Blocked: 92 (18.5%) --- Riposted: 22 (5.4%) --- Absorbed: 0 (0%)

770 AC (naked + aego + enough weight to drop my AC that far)
--- Total damage: 45136 --- Avg hit: 246 --- Swings: 436 --- Defended: 103 (23.6%) --- Hit: 183 (42%) --- Missed: 150 (34.4%) --- Accuracy: 55% --- Dodged: 19 (5.4%) --- Parried: 0 (0%) --- Blocked: 66 (15.1%) --- Riposted: 18 (4.9%) --- Absorbed: 0 (0%)

I will try out MotG or some other much higher level mob when I have the time.

Nice.

I wonder if a plate class would experience different findings than a monk.

Nilasbik 03-24-2015 10:22 PM

Monks underweight have the same ac return as knights. So you cant compare any plate class. You have to compare them to sk/pal. Wars in lead then sk/pal/mnk (underweight), then the rest of the plate classes, then chain, leather, cloth. Monks overweight are on the leather scale. Over weight on a monk doesnt mean that current weight is higher than current STR either. So his agi doesnt change when he goes over the mnk weight. Which at 60 is 20.9. Higher than that drops your ac on a curve to a certain point. So he could incrementally increase his weight to further drop the AC without dropping to the agi penalty.


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