This change only addresses players on the ledge. The impact it has on other existing rules isn't in question. Those are separate issues (i.e. Training) which should be discussed elsewhere.

Stay off the ledges.

nilbog,

What z axis exploit? the mobs come into the ledge in plain sight. The mobs AE everyone on the ledge. The mob melees everyone on the ledge.

So once again, what z axis exploit?

This location works exactly the same as the entrance and several ramps in vp.

Well then let's make training in VP the discussion right now, because as it stands people are utilizing pathing exploits to train in VP unhindered because "there's no CSR in this zone" is the response any gm gives when you petition them for it.

How can there be CSR for 1 issue, and not for the other. This is arbitrary decision making and is not good.

you could just pvp them

That's it.

nilbog,

What z axis exploit? the mobs come into the ledge in plain sight. The mobs AE everyone on the ledge. The mob melees everyone on the ledge.

So once again, what z axis exploit?

This location works exactly the same as the entrance and several ramps in vp.

nildog doesn't owe anyone answers

When he claims something that isnt correct he does..

He could just not know what is going on though..

Make a thread and discuss it then. I might agree with no training, how do you know?

You can call it whatever you like. This thread is about not being on the ledges.

I am not sure how I can say this differently, but the ledges are off limits until further notice.

Listen to your GMs until informed otherwise.